Just as Murrica isn't all of América.
The US is not all of the Americas, but its popular name is still "America" as if it were the whole continent, which it isn't.
Likewise, Shumerum isn't all of Shinar. It's just named after it.
The indigenous name for Shumerum (an Akkadian word) is Kengir, and the indigenous name for Sumerian is Emegir.
But Russell Humphries is correct on a few things:
Where is Noah’s Ark? / A closer look at the biblical clues
by D. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. | 12 July 2011(GMT+10)
Subsequently published in Journal of Creation 25(3)
https://creation.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8113
I’m quoting the King James Version here, because I think its translation of the Hebrew word miqqedem, “from the east,” is very accurate. The noun qedem in a geographic sense means “east,” or sometimes “front” (the front of the tabernacle was its east side). The prefix mi (short form of min) means “from.” Hence we have “from [the] east.” Occasionally the phrase may mean “to the east,” as is faintly possible in Genesis 13:11, though I think use of a different preposition, le , meaning “to”, would have been more likely had that been the case.3 Very often, however, “eastward” is a different word, qēdemah, as in Genesis 13:14, 25:6, Leviticus 1:16, Numbers 3:38, etc. So our first hypothesis should be to take the phrase in Genesis 11:2 as meaning the Flood survivors traveled from some point in the east, i.e., they traveled westward.
All translations prior to Charles XII's into Swedish have a correct translation of miqqedem.
Now, while "Ararat" is not specifically Agri Dagh, it is however all of the Armenian mountainland. Ararat is the same name as Urartu, an old name for the geographic region of Armenia. And in order to in Armenia get East of Sumer, to go Westward while going to Sumer, you need to start in Nagorno-Karabakh or Arzakh.
Next, notice where they arrived, “a plain in the land of Shinar.” Bible commentators all agree that Shinar is what we know today as the land of Sumer, in the southern half of Iraq. Genesis 10:10, Daniel 1:2 and Zechariah 5:11 associate Shinar with Babylon, which was also in the southern half of Iraq. So, coming from the east, Noah’s extended family arrived in southern Iraq (not northern Iraq, which Scripture usually calls “Assyria”).
When the LXX was translated, when Shinar was translated Babylon, the Neo-Babylonian recently defunct Empire reached well into Northern Iraq and beyond. It encompassed all of Mesopotamia, not just the parts in Iraq, not just the parts in Southern Iraq. In Daniel and Zechariah, Babylon ruled over Assyrian territories, and in Genesis 10 at least one city is pretty solidly associated with Assyria, namely Nineveh. Definitely Northern part of Iraq, not too far from Turkey. Mosul, just across the Tigris from ancient Nineveh, is 490 km from Şanlıurfa, 405 km from Baghdad, not far from Classical Babylon.
The thing is, CMI has later published an article basically admitting I could be right. Ten years after Russell Humphreys:
An Upper Mesopotamian location for Babel
Ken Griffith and Darrell K. White
VIEWPOINT || JOURNAL OF CREATION 35(2) 2021
https://dl0.creation.com/articles/p149/c14992/j35_2_69-79.pdf
Will I have to publish this? I know, I won't publish it just now, I'll see if someone tries to push it more directly towards me ...
I left off at above ellipsis on the 14th of August, so late it was actually the 15th of August First Vespers (Feasts and Sundays begin earlier the day before, like 18:30 I usually count). It is now 29th of August, a day of Feast or Observance, namely the Decapitation of St. John the Baptist. This night, I published a part two of a French mini-series on Shelah's archaeological surroundings and contemporaries. It obviously referred to Göbekli Tepe as Nimrod's Babel, or as the Babel of Genesis 11.* And so, within a few hours, I come to see a mini-series on Nimrod.
In Part 1, at or by 9:19 into the video, I see Shinar identified as Sumer. So, yes, I do have to publish it, what I've already said time and again on topics like Babel and Shinar seems to be ignored, someone has, once again, ludicrously by now, assumed I made a blunder to correct, and proceded, by prayer or by suggestion of videos manually, to "correct" my presumed "blunder" ... when I actually do make a blunder, I am usually easy to correct, as can be seen from dialogues under a video by Susanne the Math Queen** as she is known in English.
The video in question also makes the assumption, a possible error of Muslims and certainly an error of Hislop, that Nimrod invented Pagan Religion as we historically know it ... first, Pagan religion is not a completely unified thing, and second, idolatry as such begins with Ninos, who was not Nimrod but his descendant.
I get a very queezy feeling, I'm being watched by some die-hard Evangelicals, who, whenever I contradict either their religion or their suppositions of a Hislopish type (in some cases even directly taken from Hislop), try their worst to make sure I neither get readers for what they consider my errors, nor peace about the issue, but a presumably "unobtrusive" nudge, which after so many times starts becoming very obtrusive to me. If you ask me, Nimrod wasn't the first idolater in the religious sense, but he was a Totalitarian and a Slave Hunter.
Some who show too much support for ICE or what Trump wants to do to the homeless wouldn't feel OK with this being equated with Nimrod's evils, no, they prefer the Tower being a religious Ziggurat, they sometimes accuse me of being an astrologer.*** So, to them, Nimrod now, that would be my Catholicism or Santa Muerte or sth, but absolutely NOT any kind of Totalitarian methods in socio-political things.°
Hence my need to repeat the points about Babel, Shinar, Ninos (who was not Nimrod, but descended from him) over and over again. To those who have already read
and respected my answers on these points, excuses ....
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Decapitation of St. John the Baptist
29.VIII.2025
Decollatio sancti Joannis Baptistae, quem Herodes circa festum Paschae decollari praecepit. Ipsius tamen memoria solemniter hac die colitur, qua venerandum ejus caput secundo inventum fuit; quod, postea Romam translatum, in Ecclesia sancti Silvestri, ad Campum Martium, summa populi devotione asservatur.
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Salé, première moitié de sa vie (jusqu'à Babel et juste au-delà) ·
Salé, "seconde moitié" de sa vie, après Babel
**
Susanne machte eine Fehler ... seltenste Sensation ... after publishing, and because of a dialogue also now in the post, I added a kind of post-script:
Sogar so selten daß es nicht mal diesmal geschah ... sonst wäre es aber wirklich eine Sensation gewesen!
*** Like someone did at the video behind this post:
Danny Faulkner Believes in Heliocentrism, but NOT ETs, is That Inconsistent?
° At least not the kind of Totalitarianism that hits the insignificant, like homeless or "mentally ill" or things ... or if at all, their limit of toleration of such totalitarianism is higher than mine.
