lundi 21 septembre 2026

Just So Story on Language


1:22 to 4:36 (3 min 14 sec, a bit past fair use, since the video isn't 32 minutes long, but I got the permission), and it's from this video:

Why Did Ancient Humans Learn to Talk — But Other Animals Didn’t?
Ami | 5 Sept. 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACWMDECSNSw


First, enjoy his brilliant story-telling. It's actually a beautiful story in itself, if you accept the premisses of Evolutionary origin and suffering before sin and so on.

Go back to a time when your ancestors had no sentences at all. You're standing on a riverbank with a small group of ancient humans when someone spots a lion in the reeds and lets out a sharp bark of fear. Everyone scatters. That bark isn't a word. It's an emotional sound. The same kind of noise a startled baboon makes or you make when a plate slips out of your hands. It comes out of the body, not the mind.

But now watch the second time. The same person sees the same lion, points at the reads, and makes the same bark. And a few people who didn't see the lion look where the finger is pointing. That's the first tiny crack in the wall.

A sound plus a point. Attention aimed at a thing. Now run that scene a thousand times over a hundred years. The bark gets shorter and more deliberate.

People start using it before the lion is visible.

When they smell it or when they see flattened grass where it was sleeping. And here's the part that matters. The others still react. They're not reacting to a lion anymore. They're reacting to the sound that stands for one. That's a word being born. Nobody decided it. It just stuck.

Then it happens again with something else. One sound for the lion. A different sound maybe a soft repeated noise for the river. Another one for the sweet roots that grow near the marsh. Somebody's child copies the sounds wrong and gets corrected. Somebody from a neighbouring band marries in and brings a different noise for fire.

Over generations, a small pool of shared sounds forms. A kit of maybe a few dozen calls that everyone in the group understands the same way.

Every one of those sounds is still glued to a thing, but they belong to everybody. Now, that's the difference between a reflex and a vocabulary.

Here's where it gets interesting. A young woman reaches the ridge above you, out of breath. She makes the lion sound, then right after it, she makes the river sound. Two calls back to back, and the people below her don't hear two separate warnings. They hear one message, lion at the river. That is a bigger leap than it looks. A lion call and a river call were each complete on their own.

Put them together and a third meaning appears that neither one carried alone. She has just made something with words instead of just saying words. Once that trick exists, it spreads fast because it's useful.

Food there, water gone. Child fall. Two sound combinations turn into three. Someone works out that changing the order changes the meaning. You go is an instruction and go you is a shove.

Slowly across more generations than anyone could count. The combinations stop being fixed and start being flexible. You can plug new sounds into old patterns. That's a sentence. Not a fancy one.

But it's the first machine ancient humans ever built that made something out of nothing. And now watch the wall come down for real.

A man crouches by the fire holding up a hand axe, saying the sound for it. Fine. The next day, he says the same sound, and there's no axe anywhere in sight, and the person he's talking to walks off and comes back with one. The word just detached from its object. It floats.

For the first time, a human can put a thing into someone else's head that isn't in front of either of them. You can throw a word across a river, across a valley, across a lifetime.


But, time for analysis.

Go back to a time when your ancestors had no sentences at all. You're standing on a riverbank with a small group of ancient humans when someone spots a lion in the reeds and lets out a sharp bark of fear. Everyone scatters. That bark isn't a word. It's an emotional sound. The same kind of noise a startled baboon makes or you make when a plate slips out of your hands. It comes out of the body, not the mind.


The baboon and yourself are in very different positions. But in both cases, the sound actually comes out of the mind (or in the baboon's case, consciousness).

And in both cases it was learned. You will have learned that noise (possibly one of the words or phrases that get respelled with @#! and such extra characters in comic books) because your dad did it too. (Or your mum, but in that case you might be saying "fudge!")

The apes that live around lions have learned the danger signal too. It doesn't mean "lion" but "lion-danger, flee!" And if you are good at climbing "lion-danger, flee into the trees!" It is also pretty precisely one sound. It can be repeated, prolonged, but it doesn't alternate with different sounds in fixed series of sounds. It's the one sound that carries the meaning.

But now watch the second time. The same person sees the same lion, points at the reeds, and makes the same bark. And a few people who didn't see the lion look where the finger is pointing. That's the first tiny crack in the wall.


Already, where do we arrive at a pointing finger being anything other than a command or a threat, as it is to apes?

Again, apes also use danger calls to people not seeing the lion ... well, not people, but it would kind of have been if our ancestors had been there.

A sound plus a point. Attention aimed at a thing. Now run that scene a thousand times over a hundred years. The bark gets shorter and more deliberate.


Why would it? Words in human languages do become shorter, and to some that may come off as "more deliberate" though I might disagree. To me "ek Hlewagastiz holtingaz" doesn't come off as hesitating, but as thoughtful, but you do you. Whether it's more deliberate or not, the cognates in modern Swedish are certainly shorter: "jag Lägest hölting" ... in English it might be "I Leaguest holting" also shorter. However, the reason why a word can change sounds and get shorter is, the word consisted of different sounds to begin with, and whenever a sound disappeared or changed, the surrounding or otherwise other sounds in the word were sufficient to carry on the meaning. Even regular sound changes get tweaked once a word is on the verge of becoming confused with another one. My favourite go to is when Latin "solem" and "solum" (Sun and soil) were both going to "sol" (in French, this only means soil), and the word for Sun was exchanged for a longer one, which in Latin would have been "soliculum" and in French is "soleil" ... as long as a meaning is tied to a single sound, it can't change. Lion in English is [l ai @ n] and used to be [l i: o n] and both the diphthongisation of the first vowel and the smudging of the second one are only possible because of the surrounding sounds. This can't happen to a "bark" ...

People start using it before the lion is visible.

When they smell it or when they see flattened grass where it was sleeping. And here's the part that matters. The others still react. They're not reacting to a lion anymore. They're reacting to the sound that stands for one. That's a word being born. Nobody decided it. It just stuck.


Apart from the pointing, which I find dubious in anyone who inherited apelike communications, all of this is perfectly within the scope of what ape already have. You know in the rest of the video, apes are described as incapable of comprehending pointing as an offer or demand for information.

Then it happens again with something else. One sound for the lion. A different sound maybe a soft repeated noise for the river. Another one for the sweet roots that grow near the marsh. Somebody's child copies the sounds wrong and gets corrected. Somebody from a neighbouring band marries in and brings a different noise for fire.


Why would they have sounds for these things? Remember, it's a question of warning signals and also other emotionally and pragmatically cued signals.

And the way to express an intention to go and pick things for eating wouldn't be to designate a specific food item, but to either start grubbing for the roots or lifting hands to apples or do some gesture or sound of impatience to signal one should start or oneself intends to start. The only signal in which the river might fit would be sth like "let's take a bath!" Or if the context were "don't drown, don't fall in" that would also make sense.

Over generations, a small pool of shared sounds forms. A kit of maybe a few dozen calls that everyone in the group understands the same way.


Apes already have that. In principle it could be up to 500 items, ranging from the equivalent of traffic signals ("lion, flee-into-trees") to emotica ("how are you?"—"I'm fine!"*). In many cases, it's the tone or the gestures that do it.

Every one of those sounds is still glued to a thing, but they belong to everybody. Now, that's the difference between a reflex and a vocabulary.


It was never a pure reflex in the first place and there was no explanation why sounds become attached to things rather than to pragmatic and emotional situations.

Here's where it gets interesting. A young woman reaches the ridge above you, out of breath. She makes the lion sound, then right after it, she makes the river sound. Two calls back to back, and the people below her don't hear two separate warnings. They hear one message, lion at the river. That is a bigger leap than it looks. A lion call and a river call were each complete on their own.


They would presumably, if raised on ape communications have heard "don't fall in, don't drown" and "flee into the trees" ...

Put them together and a third meaning appears that neither one carried alone. She has just made something with words instead of just saying words. Once that trick exists, it spreads fast because it's useful.


In order for the trick to exist at all, one would need to have meanings like "lion" and "river" and not like "don't drown" and "flee into the trees"

Food there, water gone. Child fall. Two sound combinations turn into three. Someone works out that changing the order changes the meaning. You go is an instruction and go you is a shove.

Slowly across more generations than anyone could count. The combinations stop being fixed and start being flexible. You can plug new sounds into old patterns. That's a sentence. Not a fancy one.


The reason they are flexible is, they are sentences. The reason they are sentences is, they are made up out of words, that are in themselves incomplete in situational meaning and complete each other as a way of giving mainly information. And in order to do that, you need to have way more words than there are emotional or pragmatic situations (which already had their "words" and shouldn't lose them, remember!), but for that to happen, you'd need words to be made up of smaller sound units in themselves not meaningful, only distinguishing between meanings. Remember why the "bark" for "lion-danger, flee into the trees!" can't become a neat word that simply means "lion" ...

But it's the first machine ancient humans ever built that made something out of nothing. And now watch the wall come down for real.

A man crouches by the fire holding up a hand axe, saying the sound for it. Fine. The next day, he says the same sound, and there's no axe anywhere in sight, and the person he's talking to walks off and comes back with one. The word just detached from its object. It floats.


Supposing any creature ever had hand axes before language, the hand axe would still be in the situation, since the person using the word would have been asking for one or for the same one as yesterday, to be produced.

This is miles away from talking about hand axes that are absent from the situation.

For the first time, a human can put a thing into someone else's head that isn't in front of either of them. You can throw a word across a river, across a valley, across a lifetime.


I frankly don't think this example works for all of this buildup. You can ask for a hand axe, but presumably some apes have asked for oranges where none were in sight. The ape** cannot throw the sign for orange across his lifetime, if he signs "orange" he means "give me an orange" and not necessarily adding any "pretty please" ...

In other words, "mission statement: invent human language" and "mission report: mission not accomplished".

However, if instead God created Adam and infused language, that mission wouldn't have been needed in the first place. That's why either eternity of mankind (impossible in a universe that began) or mankind created by an eternal are superior explanations for language over man evolving and inventing language. And that eternal that gave men language, we Christians identify as the Triune God.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Matthew
21.IX.2026

In Aethiopia natalis sancti Matthaei, Apostoli et Evangelistae; qui, in ea regione praedicans, martyrium passus est. Hujus Evangelium, Hebraeo sermone conscriptum, ipso Matthaeo revelante, inventum est, una cum corpore beati Barnabae Apostoli, tempore Zenonis Imperatoris.

* You may imagine that someone who's reducing conversations with me to those items, to me comes off as dehumanising. ** Like taught sign language.

dimanche 13 septembre 2026

Do Olive Trees Prove the Flood Local / Regional?


An olive tree that had been 11 months under water would not naturally be able to give a living and fruitbearing branch.

And having waited yet seven other days, he again sent forth the dove out of the ark And she came to him in the evening, carrying a bough of an olive tree, with green leaves, in her mouth. Noe therefore understood that the waters were ceased upon the earth
[Genesis 8:10-11]


So, case closed, the olive tree needs to have been growing where there was no flooding, right?

Wrong.

Now read this, as we start, God is talking:

Whomsoever of these I shall choose, his rod shall blossom: and I will make to cease from me the murmurings of the children of Israel, wherewith they murmur against you And Moses spoke to the children of Israel: and all the princes gave him rods one for every tribe: and there were twelve rods besides the rod of Aaron And when Moses had laid them up before the Lord in the tabernacle of the testimony He returned on the following day, and found that the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi, was budded: and that the buds swelling it had bloomed blossoms, which spreading the leaves, were formed into almonds
[Numbers 17:5-8]


Oh, God has miraculous powers over vegetation and parts thereof?

Well, seems that the argument previously presented is one argument short .../HGL

Sweatman's Thesis?


He goes further, tying the carving to a comet strike around 10,850 BC and the long cold snap that followed it. The excavators do not accept it, and they have said so in detail. The German Archaeological Institute's published response points out that the date the astronomical reading requires runs 700 to a 1,000 years earlier than the oldest radiocarbon date from enclosure D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnM12uoZDBI


So, carbon dated 10 850 BC vs 9 500 BC ...

2634 BC*
37.009 pmC, dated as 10,851 BC
....
2608 BC
43.443 pmC, 9500 BC


2634 to 2608 is 26 years. Not all that wild./HGL

* Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt

samedi 12 septembre 2026

97 % Of Our Existence Uncivilised?


Now, the Evolution believers who think man as Homo sapiens sapiens (excluding Neanderthals, Denisovans, Heidelbergians, Antecessors) have been around for 300 000 thousand years and civilisation only started like 10 000 years ago, they have an answer.

The answer is not pretty, but not quite for the reason you think.

Before "end of the last Ice Age" and a plenty in the Fertile Crescent, so they say, man was always on the move. This means, groups were small, so skills couldn't be reliably transmitted and "next year" was so unpredictable, it was useless to make technologies involving the future.

So, it doesn't involve one ugly answer that Lefebvre knew was being discussed in Seminaries under Pius XII.

This answer is, Cro Magnons were simply not human. If they had been human, they would have made inventions and thus, the 97 % of our existence (96.667 %) that we have had settlement, larger groups, inventions building on each other, need to have been done by subhumans. Adam, on their view, came after these. If we are related to them, maybe Adam had non-human progenitors, who couldn't teach him to speak, which makes God a child abuser.

Now, the friend of mine who was on an FSSP seminar and later an FSSPX seminar and later married didn't mention Adam having non-human progenitors or this making God a child abuser. Perhaps the Seminar where Lefebvre was didn't even touch that with a pole. But the idea that Adam had non-human progenitors existed, as it is mentioned by Humani Generis. And it logically leads to God being a child abuser against Adam. When someone becomes a feral child now, maybe handicapped for life if it lasts long enough, this is punishment for Adam's sin. But, by definition, in his own childhood, Adam would not yet have sinned, so he couldn't be punished that way. It would have been an act of injustice on God's part.

Now, this is not the actual reason why the more modern version is ugly too. Here it comes.

In a pre-settled society, women can only carry one child and therefore cannot afford a second child before the first one can walk. Child spacing for four years ... if contraception fails, abortion or abandoning children is a back-up plan.

This is the modern version of what happened to us before the Fertile Crescent. If it happened to men before Adam sinned, it was evil, unless they were subhuman, which arguably they weren't. Modern archaeologists have picked that apart very well. If it happened for 300 000 years after Adam sinned, it means the historical transmission of Genesis 3 as well as the faithful waiting for the Messias are compromised.

I am not a fan of Vatican II, but Dei Verbum in § 3 at least is better than this idea.

God, who through the Word creates all things (see John 1:3) and keeps them in existence, gives men an enduring witness to Himself in created realities (see Rom. 1:19-20). Planning to make known the way of heavenly salvation, He went further and from the start manifested Himself to our first parents. Then after their fall His promise of redemption aroused in them the hope of being saved (see Gen. 3:15) and from that time on He ceaselessly kept the human race in His care, to give eternal life to those who perseveringly do good in search of salvation (see Rom. 2:6-7). Then, at the time He had appointed He called Abraham in order to make of him a great nation (see Gen. 12:2). Through the patriarchs, and after them through Moses and the prophets, He taught this people to acknowledge Himself the one living and true God, provident father and just judge, and to wait for the Savior promised by Him, and in this manner prepared the way for the Gospel down through the centuries.


Do you see the pre-Abraham parts happening over 300 000 years in conditions of continuous instability? I don't.

The current Vatican II-ers, or here majority of them, by being Evolutionists, are getting themselves in objective conflict, if not a social roast, with the Vatican II they claim to follow. Oddi and Ottaviani, whose initial schema would have been far closer to Young Earth Creationism or at least the Old Earth Scenarios with a recent humanity, perhaps after a gap or after creation days that were periods, the kind of things Fundies go for when they aren't Young Earth Creationists, and some Catholics did too between Lyell and l’École biblique et archéologique française de Jérusalem* (which around 1919 came out with the Framework Hypothesis, 5 years before Prof. Arie Noordtzij did so in 1924**) and that was it, they didn't say "men existed 300 000 years" ... especially not under those conditions. Oddi and Ottaviani are already buried in the cardinal mitres, and they aren't here to roast anyone socially. Alfredo Ottaviani died in 1979. Silvio Oddi in 2001, before the second edition of CCC.

But roasted or not, they are in an objective contradiction with Dei Verbum § 3. And it's they who claim that was a council of the Church.

Now, what would I say as a Young Earth Creationist?

First, as a Catholic. Nothing before Vatican II came even close to dogmatising the modern view, and as we see from the citation, not even Vatican II. Young Earth Creationism is the historic staple view of Catholicism, not an exotic import from Protestantism.

But second, the main problem is the timeline.

For carbon dates less than 39 000 years old and older than c. 11 600 years old, the actual dates of real history are 2958 to 2608 BC, the remainder of Noah's life.

For non-carbon dates, and most of the range older than 39 000 years is that, we have other dating methods involved, for instance K-Ar dating of the lava above, and those methods with the distortion would point to the Flood. Just as the dates of 1.8 million years for the oldest Homo Erectus, if I recall correctly.

For carbon dates older than 39 000 years and this would include Denisovans and Neanderthals, we have another problem.

Third, the other problem, after the timeline, is, God deliberately hid the Nodian civilisation. You think Muslims are bad? You haven't seen Azteks. You think Azteks are bad? Well, what about Nodians the centuries before the Flood?

The mostly Neanderthals but also actual members of the sapiens sapiens phylum, the majority race on the Ark, what we see from before the Flood is a limited view. Peoples living lives like those of the men just after the Flood. Peoples who were welcome as part admixture on the Ark, because of their expertise in this kind of life. Peoples who lived in cities, apart from Noah and his family, if they did, were corrupted. Very corrupted. Like things that would probably make even an exorcist who has seen most shrink back.

That angered God, that is one main thing He wanted to cover irretrievably or unretrieved up to the end times, under waters and mud of Noah's world wide Flood.

But while corrupted those last generations, they had knowhow and Noah profited from what they could (indirectly perhaps) teach him of woodworking or making wood resin pitch. Or perhaps it wasn't so indirect. Perhaps he paid an apprenticeship in Nodian Henoch City by the 500 years of possibly celibacy, finding no one whom he could in good conscience marry or nobody who wanted him and her parents did too. Though, given the pre-Flood corruption, that could have come even to someone in the countryside.

But first, let's cover the older ugly story, not in water or mud, but in argument. The video that deals with the conditions of early men, which I have alluded to in nearly every outlining of the modern evolutionary story, has this to say about men before "10 000 years ago", namely:

2:25—2:49
These are not cavemen grunting at a fire. These are people with plans, beliefs, fashion, and the patience to spend weeks on a single object. That's the entire recipe right there. Brains, fire, tools, cooperation, language, art, and the ability to pass it on. Every civilization that ever existed was built from exactly those ingredients and nothing else.


A brute, such as some Seminarians back in Msgr Lefebvre's days in Séminaire français de Rome contracted to Pontifical Gregorian University, or in days when he looked into other seminaries, took "pre-Adamite Cro-Magnons" to be would not have planned spending weeks with a single object. It totally breaks down on this alone.

So, fourth, this is the progress of Civilisation before and after the Flood.

Adam had supernaturally acquired knowledge that, along his life, he could naturally test and transmit. He was, like his son Cain, fully adequate to have ploughed fields. And to educate his other son Abel to have livestock.

Cain added, to stone tools, bone tools, skins, agriculture and pastoralism, also the dimension of city life and statehood.

Seth and his line added the dimension of civic opposition out of piety.

The Nephelim added loads of barbarism. Some consider them to have been involved in the generation when Tubal-Cain was adult, and Tubal-Cain added metallurgy, his sister Noema added textiles.

The barbarism arguably was part of what led to the Mahabharata war.

Which I find spoken of indirectly or in very general terms like this:

Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown And God seeing that the wickedness of men was great on the earth, and that all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times
[Genesis 6:4-5]

And the earth was corrupted before God, and was filled with iniquity And when God had seen that the earth was corrupted (for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth, He said to Noe: The end of all flesh is come before me, the earth is filled with iniquity through them, and I will destroy them with the earth
[Genesis 6:11-13]

[Lamech, mentioned in previous verse] Who took two wives: the name of the one was Ada, and the name of the other Sella And Ada brought forth Jabel: who was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of herdsmen And his brother's name was Jubal; he was the father of them that play upon the harp and the organs Sella also brought forth Tubalcain, who was a hammerer and artificer in every work of brass and iron. And the sister of Tubalcain was Noema And Lamech said to his wives Ada and Sella: Hear my voice, ye wives of Lamech, hearken to my speech: for I have slain a man to the wounding of myself, and a stripling to my own bruising Sevenfold vengeance shall be taken for Cain: but for Lamech seventy times sevenfold
[Genesis 4:19-24]


Jubal playing on "organs" would have played sth like a flute or a pan flute. His brother Jabel's sons dwellt in tents. Now, Krishna plays the flute and the Pandavas, in exile, lived in the woods.

Five Pandavas and Draupadi are exiled to the forest.

They lived in the forests and mountains for twelve years. There they performed many deeds of virtue and valour, and would go out now and then on a long round of pilgrimages, visiting many holy places.

That part of the poem is very interesting and instructive, and various are the incidents, tales, and legends with which this part of the book is replete.

There are in it beautiful and sublime stories of ancient India, religious and philosophical. Great sages came to see the brothers in their exile and narrated to them many telling stories of ancient India, so as to make them bear lightly the burden of their exile. One only I will relate to you here.


The words for "tents" in Genesis 4 is 168. ohel. The words for "huts" in the Feast of Tabernacles in Leviticus 23 is 5521. sukkah.

ohel: tent, tents, home
covering, dwelling-place, home, tabernacle, tent

sukkah: Booth, Tabernacle, Hut, Shelter
booth, cottage, covert, pavilion, tabernacle, tent


I think both of these can describe the actual dwellings of cavemen. Like, not caves, but deliberately built huts or tents. The sons of Jabel / the Pandavas in their exile / would have invented this, but living outside the system, off the grid, caught on in pre-Flood times, not least with Neanderthals in various places. Yes, these are also Adamites. Probably Denisovans too came (in part) to live like that, but we have so little left of them.

The "earliest" human remains are actually from the Flood itself, and not early at all, except in so far as all pre-Flood things are early. Homo erectus soloensis would have been skeletally hearing impaired, he would have heard consonants like K and Ch, not those like P and T. If a whole population shared the same incapacity to form or hear a speech sound, they would arguably develop a dialect going around it. Their very old dates are due to very much argon being trapped in lava and giving very excessive dates, like Stw 53:

Stw 53 was discovered in August 1976 near Krugersdorp, Transvaal in South Africa and was described in 1977 by palaeoanthropologists Alun R. Hughes and Philip V. Tobias as a skull probably from an early species of Homo.[3] Though many palaeoanthropologists recognised the fossil as representing a species of Homo, possibly H. habilis, this has never been universally accepted, many instead seeing it as a specimen of Australopithecus africanus.[4] Though the site of the fossils was initially dated to over 2 million years old, work from 2012 suggests that the site was significantly younger, at 1.78–1.43 million years old.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_gautengensis


Whether it's actually a man or an ape, doesn't really matter, the salient thing is, it has a very old date, this isn't carbon, and while I can't access the exact method on the previews in the footnotes and elsewhere, I can mention that K-Ar is a very common one, which has a very simple answer from Young Earth Creationism: argon was trapped in lava, because lava cooled quickly and this because of the Flood bringing loads of cold water to the places, in succession. Lower lava flows are dated earlier because earlier on in the Flood the water was less shallow under the build up of lava cones, and less already heated up by the process.

The city dwellers from this time are so far lost to us. And that's probably good.

Noah survived, but tools on the Ark could not rebuild cities straight away, or at least the terrain was not suitable straight away. For 350 years, Noah brought those on the Ark and those descending from them, mostly repose, not just from city life, but even from agriculture. Noah himself excepted, but he got mocked, as Genesis 9 tells.

After he died, Nimrod used the knowhow in theory to start reconstructing mainly pre-Flood features like agriculture, pastoralism and (later on, if he lived long enough) metallurgy as in gold, copper, bronze ... he didn't live to see iron rediscovered. When Agriculture was finally standard in the Fertile Crescent, it took another 500 years or so before it arrived in Britain and Ireland.

The modern times aren't the first times of rapid discovery (or rediscovery), Nimrod had done one such period before, in Göbekli Tepe and its region, which the Bible calls Babel.

After Babel, the main difference I have with the standard view is the timeline. 9600 or 9500 BC actually is a carbon date for 2608 BC. 3500 BC, end of Copper Stone Age in Ein Gedi / Asason Thamar (thank you Osgood), is a carbon date for 1936 BC. 6000 years translate to 672 years.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
after either
Second Vespers of the Holy Name of Mary
or First Vespers of XVI LD after Pentecost
12 or 13.IX.2026

[Festum sanctissimi Nominis beatae Mariae, quod Innocentius Undecimus, Pontifex Maximus, ob insignem victoriam de Turcis, ipsius Virginis praesidio, Vindobonae in Austria reportatam, celebrari jussit.]

Three not fully Catholic sources:

DEI VERBUM
https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19651118_dei-verbum_en.html


Why Did Ancient Human Progress Suddenly Explode 10,000 Years Ago After 300,000 Years of Slow Progre[ss]
Ami | 9 Sept. 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jjI71UHutc


Mahabharata Summary | A Concise Retelling by Swami Vivekananda
by Pulkit Mathur, The Spiritual Bee
https://www.spiritualbee.com/posts/mahabharata-summary-by-swami-vivekananda/


Notes:

* L’École biblique et archéologique française de Jérusalem
https://www.ebaf.edu/lecole-biblique/


** CMI: The Framework hypothesis, missionary societies and the Gospel
By Russell M. Grigg | Published 18 Sep, 2019 | Updated 02 Sep, 2023
https://creation.com/en/articles/framework-missionary-societies-gospel

mardi 1 septembre 2026

Serranía de La Lindosa


Two statements from wiki: where and what, clear. When, unclear.

The Serranía de la Lindosa is a 13 km (8 mi) stretch of cliff in Colombia covered with tens of thousands of painted rock art images.

The murals have not been directly dated. Some authors have suggested that they date to around 12,600 years ago, based on dating of sediment layers containing ochre flakes within excavations near the art, but others suggest that they are too well preserved to be so old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serranía_de_la_Lindosa


"10 650 BC" was when for real?

2634 BC*
37.009 pmC, dated as 10,851 BC
2621 BC
40.229 pmC, dated as 10,148 BC

Calculons
(2634 + 2634 + 2621) / 3 = 2630 BC
(37.009 + 37.009 + 40.229) / 3 = 38.0823333333333

5730 * log(0.3808233333333333333333333) / log(0.5) + 2629.6666666666666667 = "10 610 BC"**

2630 BC
38.08233 pmC, dated as 10,610 BC


2630 + 2026 = 4656.

This means, the rock art is roughly 3 times younger than the uniformitarian carbon date./HGL

* Surrounding dates cited from Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt
** Formula, see: Newer Tables, Preliminaries (near bottom)

Supervalcanoes from the Flood, but Why Campi Flegrei?


When did the Yellowstone super-volcanoes erupt?
By Mike Oard | Published 01 Aug, 2025
https://creation.com/en/articles/when-did-the-yellowstone-super-volcanoes-erupt


[First appeared in Journal of Creation 39(1)
Pages 19 - 21, April 2025]


What does this article say?

While working on the Ice Age and the geomorphology of the upper Wind River Basin between Dubois and Riverton, Wyoming (figure 2), I came to the conclusion that it is highly likely that the eruptions took place during the Flood.3 The upper Wind River Valley is about 150 km (95 mi) southeast of the Yellowstone caldera and well within the deposition of ash.


So, Oard is giving specifics for this supervolcano, not actually a generalisation for all supervolcanos.

Hong Kong supervolcano geotour not clear ...

This one says supervolcanos were post-Flood:

The Ice Age portion of Greenland ice cores shows evidence of 1,927 volcanic events recorded in the ice sheet.5 There are 700 stratovolcanoes on Earth (figure 2), and these cones would mostly represent post-Flood volcanism.


The unique post-Flood Ice Age
By Michael Oard | Published 02 Dec, 2019 | Updated 23 Nov, 2024
https://creation.com/en/articles/ice-age-model


OK, here I differ, I think the volcanos are often enough from the Flood.

But why precisely Campi Flegrei?

Well, check the uniformitarian age of Yellowstone or of Toba or the Hong Kong supervolcano!

At first, uniformitarian scientists thought the Yellowstone caldera was a result of only one huge eruption because its ash had spread over the western and central United States. However, dating the ash revealed three ages. So, it is widely believed that three Yellowstone super-volcanic eruptions occurred, 2, 1.2, and 0.6 Ma ago, late in their timescale. So, when did this super-volcano erupt in biblical Earth history?


Yellowstone, none of them carbon 14. A non-carbon radiometric age can't show you the carbon date of an event.

Also, the probable dating method isn't one which depends really on when it was, apart from the Flood cooling lava and post-Flood uranium decaying quicker in some places. This means, one cannot totally be sure there were three eruptions. But if there were, if three layers with these different dates are found in the right order on top of each other, that confirms "during the Flood" insofar as that was a time when later and shallower lava flows were cooled less quickly and trapped less argon.

The Toba eruption (also called the Toba supereruption and the Youngest Toba eruption) was a large eruption that occurred around 74,000 years ago, during the Late Pleistocene,[2] at the site of present-day Lake Toba, in Sumatra, Indonesia. It was the last in a series of at least four caldera-forming eruptions there, the earlier known caldera having formed about 1.2 million years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngest_Toba_eruption


Both eruptions on Toba are non-carbon, and are lying in the right order for an earlier and a later cooling in different amounts of Flood water.

Hong Kong is often considered a safe haven from major natural disasters like earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. However, about 140 million years ago, the region experienced a colossal supervolcanic eruption that dramatically transformed its landscape. To understand the cause of this volcanic explosion, it's essential to explore Earth's structure.

Unveiling the Strongest Volcano Eruption in World History: Hong Kong's High Island Supervolcano
https://hongkonggeoparktour.com/blogs/news-about-hong-kong-unesco-geopark-volcanic-rock-region/strongest-volcano-eruption-in-world-history


140 million years ago is also not carbon.

This leaves as a carbon dated supervolcano, Campi Flegrei. 39 000 years ago.

Now, a challenge for CMI. If the supervolcanos were post-Flood, mostly, how did the world even survive? 700 eruptions or more during a few centuries after the Flood, we would not just have had an Ice Age, we would have had death of plant life around the globe. However, if the supervolcanos were from the Flood, most of the volcanic ash would have been washed away from the atmosphere by rains during the early stage of the Flood. And the post-Flood world would have been surviveable, as it was.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Giles
1.IX.2026

In provincia Narbonensi sancti Aegidii, Abbatis et Confessoris, cujus nomine est appellatum oppidum, quod postea crevit in loco, ubi ipse monasterium erexerat et mortalis vitae cursum absolverat.

samedi 29 août 2026

Sam McKee Featured St. Augustine, Philo and Josephus


From St. Augustine he only gave the mis-used and overquoted and therefore quotemined quote on the topic.

[De Genesi ad litteram libri XII, book I]

19. 39. Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking non-sense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of the faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although “they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion.” (1 Tm 1, 7)

On the Prudence and Openness in Interpreting Sacred Scripture, when Biblical Passages deal with our Knowledge of Nature
https://inters.org/augustine-interpretating-sacred-scripture


What he doesn't mention is, St. Augustine was stating this in response to people who believed not just that Earth was flat, but that Heaven was a flat disc.

Something which keen and systematic observations by the naked eye may refute, even before Magellan.

So, he pretended "early Church Fathers" and Philo and Josephus didn't believe Genesis to imply a Young Earth.

But he didn't specify which ones, of the Church Fathers, so I go to Philo now:

III. (13) And he says that the world was made in six days, not because the Creator stood in need of a length of time (for it is natural that God should do everything at once, not merely by uttering a command, but by even thinking of it); but because the things created required arrangement; and number is akin to arrangement; and, of all numbers, six is, by the laws of nature, the most productive: for of all the numbers, from the unit upwards, it is the first perfect one, being made equal to its parts, and being made complete by them; the number three being half of it, and the number two a third of it, and the unit a sixth of it, and, so to say, it is formed so as to be both male and female, and is made up of the power of both natures; for in existing things the odd number is the male, and the even number is the female; accordingly, of odd numbers the first is the number three, and of even numbers the first is two, and the two numbers multiplied together make six. (14) It was fitting therefore, that the world, being the most perfect of created things, should be made according to the perfect number, namely, six: and, as it was to have in it the causes of both, which arise from combination, that it should be formed according to a mixed number, the first combination of odd and even numbers, since it was to embrace the character both of the male who sows the seed, and of the female who receives it. (15) And he allotted each of the six days to one of the portions of the whole, taking out the first day, which he does not even call the first day, that it may not be numbered with the others, but entitling it one, he names it rightly, perceiving in it, and ascribing to it the nature and appellation of the limit.

The Works of Philo: ON THE CREATION
https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/yonge/book1.html


Sounds like Philo believed in six literal days.

Now God loved this man for his righteousness. Yet he not only condemned those other men for their wickedness, but determined to destroy the whole race of mankind; and to make another race that should be pure from wickedness: and cutting short their lives, and making their years not so many as they formerly lived, but one hundred and twenty only, (15) he turned the dry land into sea. And thus were all these men destroyed. But Noah alone was saved. For God suggested to him the following contrivance and way of escape. That he should make an Ark of four stories high; three hundred cubits1 long; fifty cubits broad, and thirty cubits high. [An. 2929] Accordingly he entered into that Ark, and his wife, and sons, and their wives; and put into it not only other provisions, to support their wants there, but also sent in with the rest all sorts of living creatures, the male and his female, for the preservation of their kinds, and others of them by sevens. Now this Ark had firm walls, and a roof; and was braced with cross beams: so that it could not be any way drowned, or over-born by the violence of the water. And thus was Noah, with his family, preserved. Now he was the tenth from Adam: as being the son of Lamech: whose father was Mathusala: he was the son of Enoch, the son of Jared: and Jared was the son of Malaleel: who, with many of his sisters, were the children of Cain[an], the son of Enos. Now Enos was the son of Seth, the son of Adam.

Chapter III, 2

I will now treat of the Hebrews. The son of Phaleg, whose father was Heber, was Ragau: whose son was Serug: to whom was born Nahor: his son was Terah: who was the father of Abraham: who accordingly was the tenth from Noah: (27) and was born in the two hundred and ninety second year after the deluge. For Terah begat Abram in his seventieth year. Nahor begat Haran, when he was one hundred and twenty years old: Nahor was born to Serug at his hundred and thirty second year: Ragau had Serug at one hundred and thirty: at the same time also Phaleg had Ragau: Heber begat Phaleg in his hundred and thirty fourth year: he himself being begotten by Sala when he was an hundred and thirty years old: whom Arphaxad had for his son at the hundred and thirty fifth year of his age. Arphaxad was the son of Shem; and born twelve years after the deluge. ...

Chapter VI, 5

Flavius Josephus of the Antiquities of the Jews — Book I
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/ant-1.html


Sounds like Josephus believed Abraham was twenty generations from the first man ever to exist.

Note that the adding up of particular generations between Noah and Abraham gives more than the total of 292 years he claims to be the addition of them.

I have elsewhere said this probably is because he learned the Genesis 11 by heart from a LXX leaning or adjacent Hebrew copy, but then was told and accepted to use the total of 292 years.

Either way, twenty generations don't add up to 40 000 or 100 000 or 300 000 or 700 000 thousand years.

So, basically, Sam McKee was spreading misinformation on Premier Unbelievable.*

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Decapitation of St. John the Baptist
29.VIII.2026

Decollatio sancti Joannis Baptistae, quem Herodes circa festum Paschae decollari praecepit. Ipsius tamen memoria solemniter hac die colitur, qua venerandum ejus caput secundo inventum fuit; quod, postea Romam translatum, in Ecclesia sancti Silvestri, ad Campum Martium, summa populi devotione asservatur.
Lutetiae Parisiorum depositio sancti Mederici Presbyteri.

* Not sure what is the case about other subjects. The video is longish, but I looked that part up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHtHZltpr7g