Before I began defending the Traditional Catholic Doctrine of Creation publicly, I had no problem getting people to come and do interviews at TruthWorthy... I was going through a lot so I had to cancel my long list of great interviews and guests this year... Now, nobody wants to touch me with a ten foot pole. It's sad that simply because you defend the Literal interpretation of Genesis 1-11, and are outspoken, that no one will give you the time of day. That's alright. I've had no support (outside my amazing friends and followers) the entire time, and I landed in the best of hands. I'll keep trusting God and doing the work He has put on my heart. I think my colleagues highly misunderstand me and miss the beauty in the message I bring... I'm very thankful that Dr. Sungenis has seen the good in me instead of the human aspects that can, I admit, effect my character at times. I'm working on it, as we all are. I don't put anyone on the spot. Come and hang out and talk Theology and Philosophy with me! I really don't bite. I'm actually known to be very nice nowadays 😁. |
mercredi 20 novembre 2024
Levi J. Pingleton, on FB
dimanche 17 novembre 2024
Evolutionists have a war problem
Shem the Cave Painter? Or Japheth? · Cave Art · Evolutionists have a war problem
Origins of War: The Puzzling Lack of Archaeological Evidence
On Humans | 10 Nov. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTlahzcRcKM
for me was when I first started 0:19 reading about this I think chimpanzees 0:21 were the strongest like emotionally 0:24 strongest argument for war being natural 0:26 to humans and the lack of cave paintings 0:28 above war was the emotional was powerful 0:30 argument for war not being quote unquote 0:33 natural
So, on the one hand, we can be sure that (according to Darwinism, in fact we cannot really be sure at all, but for Darwinists, it would be security, subjectively, and necessarily so), mankind has been involved in warfare since back when we and chimps (supposedly) were the exact same species.
We have pre-historic cannibalism, which highly suggests war. Homo Antecessor in Atapuerca. Homo Erectus Soloensis. Neanderthals in Belgium, but not in Spain.
On the other hand, for (with equal certainty, to any deep timer), man did cave paintings for tens of thousands of* years, and did not once depict warfare. For 30,000 years, men painted caves with figurative art, basically in a very similar style by the way, like if it came from one artist or a series of very closely related artists (related as a school, if not necessarily as a family). And not once did they depict warfare.
As a Young Earth Creationist, I happen to have a solution. Neanderthals, Denisovans / Antecessors / Heidelbergians, Homines erecti soloenses, none of them had usually figurative art. All of them were involved in cannibalism. All of them were pre-Flood. And arguably well described by Genesis 6 and by Mahabharata. Obviously, between the two sources, God is obviously better described in Genesis 6, but perhaps Mahabharata gives a more detailed account. In the post-Flood era, we find cave paintings from the Flood to the Death of Noah. Perhaps Noah himself was the only cave painter. If so, he visited Australia in carbon dated 28 000 BP**, which means ...
- 2884 BC
- 4.804 pmC, so dated 27984 BC
... he came to Down Under in 73 years after the Flood. At least one cave painter did.
During this time, banditry and quarrels did exist, but no nations and no big warfare. That only came after Babel. When Nimrod was as yet a "mighty hunter" (as some say of men, that is, he was a slave hunter), as long as he found no real resistance, that was not yet warfare. So mankind lived for 350 to 401 odd years after the Flood with no warfare. To Noah's death or to Peleg's birth. What Nimrod did was arguably uglier than warfare, except in his youth when he helped out his brother Regma, like the Ramayana seems to commemorate (with quite a few idolatrous additions to the theology of the story, but I think the main events might be correctly recalled).
The reason there was no war in this time was, right then and there, mankind was:
- relatively small
- more unified than since Cain went off to Nod
- and probably very tired of pre-Flood wars, like the one mentioned in Mahabharata (same observation as for Ramayana)***
Conditions during the 2242 or more probably 2262 years before the Flood were less peaceful.° And soon after Peleg's birth, soon after Babel's end, warfare was going to resume.°°
Systemic warfare appears to have been a direct consequence of the sedentism as it developed in the wake of the Neolithic Revolution. An important example is the massacre of Talheim Death Pit (near Heilbronn, Germany), dated right on the cusp of the beginning European Neolithic, at 5500 BC.
Which is:
- 2250 BC
- 67.323 pmC, so dated 5500 BC
... 306 years after Babel. So there may have been a relative peace period, once again, between Nimrod's brutalities°° and post-Babel warfare. Thanks to the separation.
And, this is, obviously, the reason why acts of warfare are not depicted in the original style of figurative cave art.
Now, I must admit, the two guys on the video, like the channel owner (the one quoted), Ilari Mäkelä, and Professor Luke Glowacki (Boston University) come to some other conclusions. The professor would say that hunting was an everyday activity, while war about resources could happen perhaps every 5 years, material from Africa for the period prior to 10,000 BP is lacking in complete skeleta (they also discussed the question of skeleta found as obvious victims of warfare, and partly not all lethal violence damages the skeleton, and partly, in order to see that a skeleton was damaged by lethal violence it needs a certain completeness.
To illustrate what he means, if you have a complete skeleton, an ax cut at vertebrae would show and be identified as such. A similarly cut vertebra in a very dislocated skeleton, well, the damage could have happened way later by accident, like lying next to a sharp stone in water or something.
Skeleta from Africa prior to "10,000 years ago" seem to be mostly incomplete. His point would be, Europe was so non-densely populated in the Upper Palaeolithic that this was an exceptionally war rare period.
But still, on their view 30,000 years? I still think I have a point.
In a previous post, years ago, I mentioned Noah's son Japheth as a possible candidate for the sole or main painter of cave paintings. This is because I was exploring the chronology of Syncellus, in which Shem dies (and presumably Japheth theoretically could be expected to die) before the birth of Peleg, and so could have died overall before Babel, before the Neolithic. In the chronology of the Roman Martyrology, Noah is a more likely candidate, though obviously, the prevalence of paintings in Europe over most other areas (Australia and Indonesia excepted) could point to Shem's contemporary and brother Japheth.
For that matter, it could have been someone even younger, and one who changed technique in the Neolithic, as opposed to dying. Such an event would also explain Japheth ceasing this type of paintings when Noah died, if he simply changed technique or style instead. By the way, I think there were sculptors too, and some of their art includes pornography, which dismisses one of the points made in the video.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
VI LD after Epiphany. Reported.
17.XI.2024
* Wikipedia says:
The oldest known are more than 40,000 years old (art of the Upper Paleolithic) and found in the caves in the district of Maros (Sulawesi, Indonesia). The oldest are often constructed from hand stencils and simple geometric shapes.[5][b] More recently, in 2021, cave art of a pig found in Sulawesi, Indonesia, and dated to over 45,500 years ago, has been reported.[7][8]
A 2018 study claimed an age of 64,000 years for the oldest examples of non-figurative cave art in the Iberian Peninsula. Represented by three red non-figurative symbols found in the caves of Maltravieso, Ardales and La Pasiega, Spain, these predate the appearance of modern humans in Europe by at least 20,000 years and thus must have been made by Neanderthals rather than modern humans.
...
Other examples may date as late as the Early Bronze Age, but the well-known Magdalenian style seen at Lascaux in France (c. 15,000 BC) and Altamira in Spain died out about 10,000 BC, coinciding with the advent of the Neolithic period. Some caves probably continued to be painted over a period of several thousands of years.
** Same article:
Another Australian site, Nawarla Gabarnmang, has charcoal drawings that have been radiocarbon-dated to 28,000 years, making it the oldest site in Australia and among the oldest in the world for which reliable date evidence has been obtained.
*** They get their dates inverted in Hindu lore, as per what I take to be the real action, probably because denying the recency of the Flood would have involved remembering Babel, which Regma, as favoured by Nimrod, but not admiring his subsequent carreere in Babel / Göbekli Tepe, wanted to forget and help others around him to forget.
° It's possible that warfare proper stopped in 3102 BC, Krishna's death, 145 years before the Flood, but if so, "peace forces" after that war added to violence rather than decreased it in the post-war era.
°° The quote is from the wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_warfare
which also features:
The most ancient archaeological record of what could have been a prehistoric massacre is at the site of Jebel Sahaba, committed against a population associated with the Qadan culture of far northern Sudan. The cemetery contains a large number of skeletons that are approximately 13,000 to 14,000 years old, with 24 out of 59 skeletons presenting arrowheads embedded in their skeletons, which indicates that they might have been the casualties of warfare. ... At the site of Nataruk in Turkana, Kenya, numerous 10,000-year-old human remains were found with possible evidence of major traumatic injuries, including obsidian bladelets embedded in the skeletons, that should have been lethal.
samedi 16 novembre 2024
Sometimes, I Get the Impression that CMI Has Decided to Treat Me as ... Enquirer, Adult Child, Infidel, God Knows What More
If they want to treat me as an infidel because of my being Catholic, they are inconsistent, they don't treat Chesterton or St. Thomas Aquinas as infidels.
If they want to treat me as a disbeliever in the Bible, they need to show how their interpretation of the relevant passages is water tight. No, it's not about Earth being thousands rather than millions of years old, that's where I agree with them. It's things like Geographic spread before Babel, things like skeleta of men coming from before the Flood, Göbekli Tepe being a candidate for Babel, three things I accept and they reject.
I am in fact a writer (like many on CMI, engaged at times (like most often on this blog) with things related to Creation Science (like CMI), and I claim to be offering a contribution to a problem or if you prefer lack that the overall Creation Science community has long had. The lack of a Creationist Calibration for Carbon 14.
Now, some would argue, there can be no such thing as any reliable calibration for Carbon 14. Some have for instance taken the example of a painting, mainly oil painting, from South Africa being dated to 10 000 years old. The oil painting was obviously from within my lifetime. But the thing is, the dating is of the medium age of carbon atoms in the painting, not of the painting as composition. However, some of the pigments could involve old carbon from the Flood, some could be old if the painter used acrylic colours, which many oil painters do at least for the white foundation, these days. Mixed with that there would be fresher carbon, like the fibres in the linen canvas or the wooden frame.
I do not claim, no one is claiming, or only very ignorant people who want to look smarter than they are, that a calibration will cover every sample, since obviously some samples are off by the bomb effect and some samples are off by the reservoir effect. I also do not claim that a dating unsupported by textual evidence from back then is 100 % certain. But I do claim, a date without any contrary textual evidence according to a calibration is at least as likely to be correct as not, and that the other 50 % of likelihood would be spread around it. So, for instance, if the calibration says that the Dolní Věstonice burial was close to the birth of Shelah, namely a carbon date of 24,000 BC = a real date of near 2812 BC, if there are likelihoods this is not correct, I don't expect them to go back to close to the birth of Arphaxad (also for other reasons, since there would not be all that many people back within the first decades after the Flood) or on to close to the birth of Eber, 84 years before Noah died, I expect this to be true about that carbon date to that post-Flood year and its surroundings.
Now, Robert Carter has taken an opposite view. He thinks* the atmospheric carbon 14 level went up and down several times after the Flood, at least locally, but I'll calculate for globally. I wonder what it would take like that to get Babel = Ziggurat of Eridu, Neanderthals post-Babel and then Genesis 14 carbon dated to 3500 BC. If he doesn't identify the Tower of Babel with the Ziggurat of Eridu, carbon dated to 5400 BC (in the following, I unfortunately used 5000 BC from memory), he obviously has one problem less. In the following I'll be very technical for a while, so I'll put it in a "fact box" ...
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Obviously, if he doesn't endorse Petrovich, and his idea of Babel dated to 5400 BC, that's some less problems for him, but he could have said so.
Now, I think I may have made it clear to those who carefully read the comparison in the fact box, between his presumable implications and mine, that I have made a substantial contribution to the field. The guys on CMI don't seem to think so. I'm concluding that they are kind of shutting off the technical detail I provide, and instead categorising my contribution as the spoof by a scoffer, as insecurity in painfully minute details that aren't that important, as my simply bungling things, when I don't arrive at the same conclusions as they, as the blindness of a "nominal Christian" who was never truly saved, as the incomprehensible ravings of someone demon possessed, and why don't I just carefully listen to their much more mature take, and start to get on board?
Well, perhaps what they would most eagerly want to know might be why a homeless person imagines he can become a learned man, from the street. And my very simple response would be: turn the question around! How does a learned man (if not a full baked PhD) become homeless? Or if he's learned while homeless, how does he remain homeless? Well, the answer to the latter is, by running into people who ask why a homeless person imagines he can become a learned man, from the street. People who think they owe a homeless man, perhaps even lots of patience, tenderness, generosity, prayers, BUT not anything like intellectual curiosity.
The situation can have been aggravated by some people listening to people on the spot who imagine they are doing me some kind of favour by denying I'm a die-hard Young Earth Creationist and a few other positions that are not very popular over here. Such denials would involve lots of systematic reinterpretation of my statements, and in such reinterpretations the kind of thing I did in the fact box would be untranslatable and incomprehensible, a crude residue of pure irrationality and gibberish. Simply because it shows I'm really a Young Earth Creationist, and really think one can bend science to that position. As unpalatable to some as admitting I really put Mussolini (at least most of his carrreere) over Olof Palme (apart from revoking eugenics of a type Mussolini never had) and definitely over Per Albin Hansson (who introduced eugenics), that I really dislike painting even National Socialists with too broad a brush, that I really am Roman Catholic (the type of which some say we recrucify Christ every Mass and we worship Mary as a goddess, to name two strawmen), that I'm really Geocentric, that I really believe in angelic movers. And really think I can handle moderate drinking even in the street.
As long as they (people over here) step in to hide what I'm actually saying, because they think they do me a favour, that's even more damning to any prospect of a decent life than the kind of attitudes I am guessing CMI could have.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Gertrude
16.XI.2024
Notes:
* Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl: Correspondences on Carbon Dating, Often Davidic and Exodus Times
Sunday, 14 April 2024 | Posted by Hans Georg Lundahl at 05:05
https://correspondentia-ioannis-georgii.blogspot.com/2024/04/correspondences-on-carbon-dating-often.html
** From Abraham to Exodus
By Dr A.J.M. Osgood
https://creation.com/from-abraham-to-exodus
*** 205 - 75 = 130, 130 - 70 = 60, 292 + 60 = 352, 352 + 81 = 433
° I'll do another one with the Babel event later in Peleg's life. Note, according to Petrovich, Babel is the Ziggurat of Eridu, dated to c. 5000 BC.
°° The youngest Neanderthal is dated to 42 000 BP.
°°° This poses Babel at Peleg's death! As said.
~ In my correspondence with him, he says:
If we have rapidly rising 14C levels, we cannot even assume the atmosphere would be fully mixed during the transition period. Throw in an Ice Age, shifting atmospheric circulation patterns, vast amounts of old carbon being dumped into the biosphere via vulcanism and via the erosion of calcium-containing rocks, a collapsing magnetic field, and who knows what bombarding us from outer space, and I fully suspect that the oldest measurements will be far from precise.
Pavlovian and Gravettian, with the Burial of Dolní Věstonice
I'm starting to view a video by The Prehistory Guys about the Dolní Věstonice Burial.* In parallel, I see the wiki about the Gravettian.
Pavlovian 29,000—25,000 BP
Gravettian 27,000—20,000 BC (according to video)
/ Gravettian 33,000—22,000 BP (according to wiki)
Dolní Věstonice Burial 26,000 BP
Let's uniformitise into BC.
- 31,000 BC
- Early start of Gravettian
- 27,000 BC
- Late start of Gravettian, start of Pavlovian
- 24,000 BC
- Dolní Věstonice Burial
- 23,000 BC
- End of Pavlovian
- 20,000 BC
- End of Gravettian
Other Revision of I-II ? (also available as part of Mes plus récentes tables de carbone 14) and LXX without II Cainan gives this:
- Birth of Arphaxad
- 2956 BC
- 2933 BC
- 2.69 pmC, so dated 32833 BC
- 31,000 BC
- Early start of Gravettian
- 2918 BC
- 3.749 pmC, so dated 30018 BC
- 2884 BC
- 4.804 pmC, so dated 27984 BC
- 27,000 BC
- Late start of Gravettian, start of Pavlovian
- 2860 BC
- 5.857 pmC, so dated 26310 BC
- 24,000 BC
- Dolní Věstonice Burial
- Birth of Shelah
- 2821 BC
- 2811 BC
- 7.952 pmC, so dated 23761 BC
- 23,000 BC
- End of Pavlovian
- 2787 BC
- 8.996 pmC, so dated 22687 BC
- 2738 BC
- 11.073 / 11.069 pmC, so dated 20938 BC
- 20,000 BC
- End of Gravettian
- 2712 BC
- 17.576 pmC, so dated 17062 BC
- Birth of Eber
- 2691 BC
So, Noah, Shem and Arphaxad are all born before this era, Shelah midway, close to the Dolní Věstonice Burial, Eber just after all of this, none of them die during this period. In other words, people dying back then would have been dying prematurely.
I just got more than expected confirmation in the video that the three buried people died prematurely. The middle one was disabled,** and yes, it's a man, "behind" him was a brother, and "before" him was a cousin or half brother holding his hand to his pelvis. If you ask me, a disabled person could have become involved in a homosexual relation, without the younger full brother stepping in to prevent it, and all three got executed ... or died in an act of divine justice. The placing of the hand was (if so) meant to give clues, possibly only to God on Doomsday, about why the three were dead. Obviously, God wouldn't forget, but we don't know for certain how good the theologians were around this burial.
In fact, we do not know exactly what happened. It could have been a hunting accident, the man in the middle could have been mortally wounded in the genitals area, the two others could have died trying to save him, and failing and dying in their turn.
The carnivore teeth around the man holding his hand to his cousin's or half brother's pelvis could symbolise he was a sexual predator, or could be the teeth of a pack of carnivores, that was posthumously accorded to him as "brave hunter" while the real killer of the beasts deferred to the dead man who had sacrificed his life. Both are possible, as long as we have no verbal evidence of what happened, only the physical traces.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Gertrude
16.XI.2024
(16.XI) Sanctae Gertrudis Virginis, cujus natalis sequenti die recensetur.
(17.XI) Helpithi, in Saxonia, item natalis sanctae Gertrudis, Virginis, ex Ordine sancti Benedicti, quae dono revelationum clara exstitit. Ipsius tamen festivitas pridie hujus diei celebratur.
* The BIZARRE, 26,000 year old TRIPLE BURIAL of Dolní Věstonice
The Prehistory Guys | 4 Dec. 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b41gUaocfso
** The video mentions Chondrodysplasia punctata, but some parts of the video do not match any of the subsets of the condition.
lundi 11 novembre 2024
Two Facts that Evolutionists Try to Fit
Yes, believers in Abiogenesis are 100 % believers in every creature developing from LUCA after that, so, they are Evolutionists too.
No, I id not mean "Evolutionary Biologists" (Biology for Evolutionists) or "Evolutionary Linguistics" (not-even-any-actual-Linguistics for Evolutionists). I mean Evolutionists as opposed to Creationists.*
Earth is the only known planet with plate tectonics and the only known planet with life.
Now, what would the Bible have to say on both subjects?
For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens, God himself that formed the earth, and made it, the very maker thereof: he did not create it in vain: he formed it to be inhabited. I am the Lord, and there is no other.
[Isaias (Isaiah) 45:18]
Who shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
[Job 9:6]
So, presumably, the pillars are deep "anchor parts" of tectonic plates. Could be a fluke?
And no Hebrew writing says there are trees down in the netherworld. Hell and trees only occur together in two verses of Ezechiel 31. Could be a fluke?
Luke 16 probably has the most detailed description of the netherworld, as it was before Jesus took out the souls from the Limbus Patrum and brought them to Heaven. Does not mention trees. However, some mythologies do:
The** Poplar is first and foremost a tree sacred to the Underworld.
Leuke (whose name means “white”) was a beautiful nymph who was brought to the Underworld by the god Hades. Being mortal, Leuke could not survive in the Land of the Dead and was instead transformed into a White Poplar tree. (Some say the tree still grows there, one of the few living trees to thrive in the Underworld.)
The Norse*** does this too:
According to the poem Grímnismál, Yggdrasil has three main roots: one planted in Midgard, the world of mankind; one in Jotunheim, the world of the giants; and one in Hel, the underworld.
And° Irish:
There is a salmon-inhabited well or fountain in Tír na nÓg that is found near an enormous tree or grove of nine hazels - or a lady's bower, "where bloom was on every bough, and the air heavy with the sweetness of orchards" and a lake area (perhaps Dulcinea).
While Welsh descriptions of Annwfn do not include trees, the Baltic World°° View is similar to the Norse one:
The World Tree connects the individual parts of the world into a whole. The top of the tree coincides with the sky; the trunk, with the earth; and the roots, with the underworld. Thus, respectively, luminaries, birds are in the branches of the tree, beasts and people circle around the trunk, and reptiles, fish and the like are at the roots. This is a classic diagram of the World Tree (see Usačivaitė, 1992).
But the Bible doesn't. It seems as if it were kind of saying, only Earth, and also Heavenly Jerusalem, but nothing below or inbetween, has trees. Or nothing in between except Eden, if it was transplanted to some intermediate Heaven, like a place in the atmosphere of Venus. If Henoch and Elias are there.
Now, the abundance of trees in non-Hebrew and non-Christian netherworlds seems to make this somewhat less of a fluke.
But along with pillars, not much fluke at all ... is there something similar to be said on the Evolutionist side?
While nearly all geoscientists agree with the idea that, without plate tectonics, life on Earth might be limited to primitive organisms, a small group of researchers is now suggesting that plate tectonics could have emerged even earlier — perhaps contributing to the origin of life itself by bringing minerals that support life from the planet's interior to the crust.
This is tricky territory, pushing researchers back before 4 billion years ago, into the Hadean eon. The only direct evidence of the first 500 million years of Earth's existence is the presence of zircons, minerals that survive melting at mantle temperatures and pressures. Though the rocks once containing these minerals have melted away, the zircons — which are smaller than grains of sand — remain.
OK, the minerals are supposed to support life, but they do not suffice to create it, not to provide a cell membrane, not to create chirality and order for RNA or Proteins or DNA from Amino Acids, and so on.
In other words, the clue may be a clue, for those who take this sort of dating methods more seriously than I do it, but it's not an explanation, and hardly a confirmation. For the Bible, it is also no explanation, but it is a confirmation, as if the Bible was written by someone or inspired by Someone who knew these facts.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Martin
11.XI.2024
Turonis, in Gallia, natalis beati Martini, Episcopi et Confessoris; cujus vita tantis exstitit miraculis gloriosa, ut trium mortuorum suscitator esse meruerit.
NOTES:
* Did plate tectonics give rise to life? Groundbreaking new research could crack Earth's deepest mystery.
By Stephanie Pappas published 3 days ago, LiveScience
https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/geology/did-plate-tectonics-give-rise-to-life-groundbreaking-new-research-could-crack-earths-deepest-mystery
** Leuke & the Tree of Hades
https://atemplewild.com/materia-mythica/poplar#myth
*** Norse Mythology for Smart People: Yggdrasil
https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/yggdrasil-and-the-well-of-urd/
° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tír_na_nÓg
°° https://www.baltukelias.lt/en/editable-separated/id-415/
dimanche 10 novembre 2024
Let's Suppose There Were No Natural Caves Before the Flood
This is one of Robert Carters argument's against the Neanderthals being pre-Flood:
- Caves were formed after the Flood.
- But Neanderthals were buried in caves.
- So, Neanderthals were buried after the Flood.
Now, watch this video about Ancient Lycia:
Wonders of The Lost Lycian Civilization
Street Gems | 12 July 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAmos7gsrUk
So, wild hunch, what if the Neanderthal burials are really rock tombs, as in Ancient Lycia, with carved caves, and the Flood added irregularies that now make the caves seem natural?
/Hans Georg Lundahl
samedi 9 novembre 2024
Akallabêth = As in the Days of Noah
Tolkien may have believed in a limited, though not just local, Flood.
Or he may simply have seen the "sinking of Atlantis" (whether pre- or post-Noah's-Flood) as a parallel to it, and therefore Atlantis (on which Akallebêth is his fan fiction) just before the sinking as a parellel to the pre-Flood world just before the Flood.
Either way, it seems he knew a thing or two on how things behave at sea. He researched phases of the Moon in painstaking accuracy for Lord of the Rings, we can be sure he researched waves and giant waves and tsunamis in detail before writing Akallabêth.
Here is a quote or paraphrase from it, in Girl Next Gondor's summarising of Númenor's fall:
although The 19:35 Great Wave should have claimed their 19:36 ships along with everything else they 19:38 are instead Swept Away by a terrific 19:41 wind that snaps their masts and blows 19:43 them all the way to Middle Earth
Now, this is actually impossible, even this. Hence, it is impossible if the ships had been sailing on the sea, that they would not have been buried in the Flood. This also goes for the Ark.
Instead we must imagine that the Ark only started floating once the waters were far higher and already very much calmer. In fact, the Ark must have been very high up. I would say Noah knew where the single highest mountain on the pre-Flood world was, he built the Ark there, and he knew that the water line of the Ark would be half the way up. 15 cubits of the 30 cubits height.
Now read the appropriate verses of Genesis:
And the waters prevailed beyond measure upon the earth: and all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered The water was fifteen cubits higher than the mountains which it covered
[Genesis 7:19-20]
The Ark never was near one of those big waves from when vast land masses suddenly came under water. The seas around the mountain were as wide as the world and as deep as that mountain was high, and when that "tip of the iceberg" sank and the Ark floated, it suffered no great commotion.
But, oh boy, what a fool Noah must have looked to people when they realised he was building a ship on the back then equivalent of the top of Mount Everest. Meanwhile, as God does not break His promise, we can rule out the theory that the Flood looked just like Valencian province some time ago, with lots of houses and hilly parts of Valencia still well above the water surface.
/Hans Georg Lundahl
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