samedi 6 avril 2019

Ten Keys to my Idea of Göbekli Tepe as Babel and its Tower as a Rocket


Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Does my Interpretation of Mahabharata and Ramayana Offend Hindoos? · If Tower of Babel was a Rocket Project, Why was it Called a Tower? · If Tower of Babel was a Rocket Project - What Else Can We Expect? · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : Sin of Babel - Two Views · Φιλολoγικά/Philologica again: In case anyone missed this · Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : With Mackey on Haman and on Babel · Creation vs. Evolution : Bricks at Göbekli Tepe or Close? · How My View of Babel Ties in with "Defending Biblical Inerrancy" · Ten Keys to my Idea of Göbekli Tepe as Babel and its Tower as a Rocket · Does Roger Pearlman Have a Wrong Take on Göbekli Tepe? · Göbekli Tepe Among Hunter Gatherers

  • 1) What the Bible says happened. No event is misunderstood by hagiographers, even if minor details may be so by unwary readers (note : the "private interpretation" problem belongs mainly to doctrinal issues, not to historical ones).

  • 2) There may be occasions when the technology of the events is described in terms of a more simple or a more settled technology. The level which was the basis from "Neolithic Revolution" to "Industrial" and "IT Revolutions" was the one of the hagiographers, while the Biblical history and prophecy spans all times, including Palaeolithic prior to Neolithic Revolution, including modern times (as to prophecy). Why? Since the Bible spans all times from creation of Adam on day VI to Doomsday, and beyond in either direction.

  • 3) Origin myths in diverse paganisms are entertaining, but do not teach us the real origins of the universe. "In the beginning there was Chaos, and from Chaos came Nyx, Erebos, Eros and Gaia" - "In the beginning there was Ginnungagap, and Niflheim North of it and Muspillheim South of it and sparks from Muspillheim flew across and made ice melt from Niflheim into the Gap" - "Annunaki from Nibiru came in a spaceship" - "In the beginning all matter of the universe was concentrated in less space than a sugar cube, and it exploded in a Big Bang" - all of these are misleading if believed, and this is an aside so next shall not be misunderstood.

  • 4) Heroic legends are not like origin myths. Most of it has happened, though some of it may have been misunderstood or even deliberately distorted by authors.

  • 5) If a pagan heroic legend gives two different indications of Uranium in action (both radioactive pollution and the brightness before a mushroom cloud), then Uranium has probably been in use at some point of history prior to World War II and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Mahabharata (with the Gita) fulfils the criterium.

  • 6) If we ask when Uranium was previous to XXth C. used in war, we can note that pre-Flood is more likely than between Flood and Babel and that less unlikely than after Babel. Because the later the occurrence, the more distinguished the memory would be, among diverse post-Babel nations. We only have one, India, basically. And even then very muddled.

  • 7) Similarily, at least part of Palaeolithic conditions are more credible in the span of 350 years from Flood to death of Noah and beyond to Babel than in post-Babel conditions.

    And let the fear and dread of you be upon all the beasts of the earth, and upon all the fowls of the air, and all that move upon the earth: all the fishes of the sea are delivered into your hand.

    Sound like a thing to say when people are going to hunt. And Nimrod, a mighty hunter, being second generation born after Flood, would have come at the end or middle of this period (Noah and Ham born pre-Flood, Kush born just after Flood to Ham, and Nimrod later born to Kush). That Nimrod later became a might hunter in spite against the Lord, by hunting men for slaves, is another matter, but his beginnings were probably innocent in this context of late Palaeolithic hunting.

    And Noe, a husbandman, began to till the ground, and planted a vineyard.

    Seems to be later on.

  • 8) Since the idea of a rocket involves explosives propelling it and since Uranium in one use is an explosive, the inspiration (probably diabolical) behind a rocket driven by Uranium would not have been farfetched, if there was a memory of Uranium. If Nimrod thought he could get above the stars by rocketry, to where God lives and sent the Flood from, he may also have thought he was in this way avoiding the "next Flood" - since he did not trust God's promise.

  • 9) The fact that such a rocket would not have worked is no objection. God stopped it (if I am right) before it could do real harm, and people do project things that are similar to things that work but which in themselves do not work. Prime examples are the flying machines and parachutes projected by Leonardo da Vinci. The big difference is, Leonardo air planes tried from moderate height over water will fail but need not kill you, a mushroom cloud would have killed all involved, and Leonardo did not draft thousands or millions or basically all or all but the lowliest farmers (and even them by taxation) into a harmful project, as one did for the "Nimrod rocket".

  • 10) I can be wrong.

    Bricks and bitumen have so far not been found in Göbekli Tepe, but they have been found in Babylonian contexts which are too late for Genesis 11.

    If I can hope for some structure, even a lowly one (Genesis 11 was not openly claiming bricks and bitumen had been used for the building of the tower, whether it was a rocket or not) where bricks baked in ovens and bitumen are used, someone not agreeing with me, some adversary on this account, can obviously also hope a tower may be found later.

    So far either of us could be wrong, either one right.

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