dimanche 26 avril 2026

I'm Not Ron Wyatt


Before 45 minutes and 1 second to after 45 minutes and 42 seconds:

In one sense it doesn't matter at all. But my concern here is, you know, the reason I'm interested in it is that I don't want Christians to be misled into thinking that we have this powerful confirmation of the Bible that actually turns out to be bogus. You know, pointing to things in social media posts about, oh don't, you know, they've found chariot wheels in the Red Sea and they have the pillars of Solomon and there's a shallow sand bridge here when that turns out not to be true because you know, the danger is if a Christian maybe is convinced that this is proof of the Bible and they believe the Bible for this reason, what happens when somebody else comes along and points out, no, the evidence really doesn't align with this idea. It's based on the claims of Ron Wyatt and he's, you know, proven charlatan in many ways, is their faith going to be shipwrecked as a result?

Why This Red Sea Crossing Theory Doesn’t Hold Water
Creation Ministries International | 11 Sept. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoYzTGLt0s


Now, Ron Wyatt claimed to have gone to excavations that other people have either criticised or found not really credible.

I'm not making such a claim.

When I refer to a fact, if I "discovered" it, it was by maths and logic, or by going to the Bible text, it was not by personal and ill documented exploits of an explorer.

Even Graham Hancock has looked on more material himself than I have, I'm far closer to him than to Ron Wyatt, except, I'm a Christian.

So, when I say "in 4500 BC, when Laish was founded, it was ..."

2097 BC
74.949 pmC, dated as 4481 BC


I'm referring to a post of mine:

Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt

If you go over there, you find there are two other posts around, one from Joseph in Egypt to the Fall of Troy, and one called Preliminaries.

On Flood to Joseph in Egypt, that section is on table III—IV. On preliminaries, you will find III = end of Babel = Göbekli Tepe, birth of Peleg, 401 years after the Flood (II = beginning of Babel = Göbekli Tepe, death of Noah, 350 years after the Flood), and you may disagree with that. You may think Peleg was born 101 after the Flood or 530 after the Flood. You may disagree on Göbekli Tepe being Nimrod's Babel. If so, go to the post Preliminaries to see what I did.

You will also find IV is Genesis 14, real date 1935 BC, carbon date 3500 BC, from the reed mats when the Chalcolithic people of En-Geddi = Asason Tamar evacuated, corresponding to them being attacked in Genesis 14.

Under the nodes III and IV and all other nodes, you will find a date I think is the Biblical date and a carbon date I think is the archaeological item to the Biblical event. And you will find a decimal fraction, which, if converted to percentage fraction, translates as the pmC level of the atmosphere back then.

Under this enumeration of the nodes, you will find how I did the tables between the nodes.

So, if you agree with two consecutive nodes of mine (I/II and VI/VII have been inserted between a I and a II and between a VI and a VII already so identified in previous versions of my tables), you should, unless you insert a node in between them, agree with my table in principle.

But if you don't agree with a table, it should be because you either disagree on its two limiting nodes (Biblical date if you have another chronology or carbon date if you read another article, or identification, if you disagree with my assessment). You are perfectly free to use my method (I appreciate if you acknowledge I gave this cue) according to your own preferences, in an article of your own.

I'd like to see your results and be able to criticise them.

And I'd very much appreciate not to be compared to people who are just asking you to take their word.

Right now, I'm assessing whether I should revise my Exodus chronology to make it Amenophis II. Or Amenhotep II. The video I just cited would actually tell me, if not its author, that this is not the best choice, but I'm still on the fence. Why not? Because Keaton Halley argues that at this time no one was extending "Egypt" into Canaan, even as far as Sinai. From the promise to Abraham, his seed were 430 years in "Egypt" (Hebrew wording of Moses), or in "Egypt and Canaan" (Greek wording of LXX translators), meaning, when Jacob is in Bethel, this is within the 430 years "in Egypt" ... That is not a 19th Dynasty Situation.

I'm happy to get involved in debates on my other "claims" which are also not claims of discovery in the exploration sense, just claims of putting two and two together. From things already known, already published, already discussed in some cases.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
IIIrd LD after Easter
26.IV.2026

PS, obviously, the going after someone in his writings you acknowledge is a far less intrusive way than some to preserve Christians from falling away after trusting him too much or non-Christians from not converting when meeting Christians who still do. Making a deal to keep someone's writings a "secret" is obviously far likelier to bring financial trouble to the person concerned./HGL

vendredi 24 avril 2026

Skeleton Bias


@DanDavisHistory
Where Are All The Prehistoric Women?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gHJ6VMZRE6Q


One reason is independent of how they died or were buried, if they got buried.

Bones decay, and thinner bones decay quicker, and adult men have denser and thicker bones.

The video does suggest a bias about burial too, as if the bias from bones weren't sufficient.

Now, as a Young Earth Creationist, as adhering to the Biblical Chronology, I do have some input to give.

In the pre-Flood world, as in Lower Palaeolithic and up to "40 000 years ago" there were cities, but we don't find them.

What we do find from that time is a bit like finding Chingachgook and possibly Natty Bumppo, but strictly only in the settings of Chingachgook, never in the kind of city-scape or country-side that Natty Bumppo was arguably from.

And it is possible that such people of "palaeolithic habits" (in a world that had cities, bronze and iron, cf Genesis 4 verses 17 and 22) were not populations, but more like clubs, specifically sometimes men's clubs. In the cases of deliberate burial, we would perhaps be likelier to find important men buried outside the cities, like Attila's and Genghis Khan's tombs are said to have been hidden in nature and those constructing them killed. People receiving that kind of treatment would more probably be men than women or children.

But when it comes to the Upper Palaeolithic and the Mesolithic, there is another part to this.

Noah died at the very end of the Upper Palaeolithic or perhaps in his region already Mesolithic, 350 years after the Flood. That's carbon dated to c. 9500 BC. Anything between then and back to 37 000 BC = 39 000 BP would have been people dying prematurely.*

So, what about the Mesolithic? Actually, for the Middle East, 20 000 to 10 000 BP are already Mesolithic, so no, I must admit I was wrong. As I look it up. But for Europe, the Mesolithic is 15 000 to 5000 BP. How much of it is passed when Shem dies, or Arphaxad?

Carbon Dated
13 000 BC

2691 BC
Eber born
2686 BC
24.08 pmC, dated as 14,456 BC

2391 BC
Arphaxad died
2373 BC
61.194 pmC, dated as 6433 BC

1793 BC
Ishmael died
1779 BC
85.963 pmC, dated as 3029 BC

Carbon Dated
5000 BC


So, in terms of real years, the time from birth of Eber to death of Arphaxad is the smaller part, 300 years, while death of Arphaxad to death of Ishmael is the larger part, 600 years.

However, in terms of carbon years, the time from the birth of Eber to the death of Arphaxad is the larger part, 8023 carbon years, while the death of Arphaxad to the death of Ishmael is the smaller part 3404 years.

In the larger part of the carbon years prior to Arphaxad's death, and even beginning the next period, those dying prematurely will have outnumbered those who died at mature old age.

This is also why skeleta have a tendency to be anatomically age 40, since a man dying at 100 in the generation of Eber would have been physiologically closer to 40 than to 80.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
St. Fidelis of Sigmaringen
24.IV.2026

Sevisii, in Rhaetia, sancti Fidelis a Sigmaringa, Sacerdotis ex Ordine Minorum Capuccinorum et Martyris; qui, illuc ad praedicandam catholicam fidem missus, ibidem, ab haereticis interemptus, martyrium consummavit; et a Benedicto Decimo quarto, Pontifice Maximo, inter sanctos Martyres relatus est.

I gave excerpts from tables on Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt.

* As males are more wont to do, right?

mercredi 15 avril 2026

Some People Think Administrators Don't Lie, Religious People Do


Vindicated! · Some People Think Administrators Don't Lie, Religious People Do

Here is a video on Gilgamesh's palace.

Note, I agree Gilgamesh existed. He's one of my candidates for Nimrod, as arguably for Mr. Rohl or the now deceased Mr. Skiba. Well, for Skiba, I don't have to guess, I read him.

The Buried Palace of Gilgamesh Was Finally Opened — What Was Hidden Inside...
Creature Decoder | Origin Decoder | 15 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMewC2zKtQs


I don't know if the info on Gilgamesh's palace in the video is good or bad. I haven't seen all of it. I stopped it because of a faulty principle being expressed.

The list is not a religious text. It is an administrative record and administrative records do not include fictional entries alongside verified ones without that distinction being noted somewhere. It is not noted.


Oops ... so presumably Adolf Hitler and Martin Ludwig Bormann were more reliable people than Clemens August Count von Galen, the bishop of Munster?

That's the kind of error that led National Socialism rather than Zentrum to power in Germany.

It's also the kind of error that helped to make National Socialism bad./HGL

PS, there is some bad in the video, further on, where the Gilgamesh Epic is credited with helping to shape Genesis. It doesn't contain a vessel that would have been seaworthy in a global Flood, and Genesis 6 through 8 does./HGL

PPS, obviously, the Gilgamesh Epic would be more accurate on a tomb in the outskirts of Uruk. It seems the oldest layer of Uruk is carbon dated to 4500 BC, like that of Laish, later Tell Dan. For the real date and how to find it being somewhat before 2097 BC, see the previous post./HGL

vendredi 10 avril 2026

Vindicated!


Vindicated! · Some People Think Administrators Don't Lie, Religious People Do

When I clicked on this video, I was telling myself a second: "I'm fried. I'm proven wrong. My argument is in ashes."

I thought Abraham's tomb had been found in a setting that carbon dates to 2000 BC, from misunderstanding the title:

This 4,000-Year-Old Gate Has a Biblical Secret
Artefactum | 9 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJMUlWQIQlE


I have maintained that Genesis 14, actually happening in (according to the Roman Martyrology for Christmas Day, it's chronology) around 1935 BC*, must fit an archaeological setting of carbon dated 3500 BC. Because of verse 7, which we know with an alternative name as En-Geddi, there is a carbon date of 3500 BC pretty firmly attached to the Amorrhites evacuating En-Geddi, presumably because of the Genesis 14 events. And this evacuation was permanent up to the Iron Age.

Now, here is the verse the video deals with:

Which when Abram had heard, to wit, that his brother Lot was taken, he numbered of the servants born in his house, three hundred and eighteen well appointed: and pursued them to Dan
[Genesis 14:14]


Presumably the name was back then still Laish, but Cohanim later updated the text after the city was renamed Tel Dan. Now, if a specific item clearly tied to Abraham in person had been found carbon dated to 2000 BC, I'd have been wrong. But it isn't. The gate can have been attached to the memory of Abraham after replacing an earlier one, which he actually saw. How far back does Laish or Dan reach into Archaeology? This is my real test.

Founded
c. 4500 BC
Abandoned
c. 733 BC
Periods
Neolithic period, Bronze Age, Iron Age
Cultures
Neolithic, Canaanite, Israelite

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_(ancient_city)


OK. Laish is founded in carbon dated 4500 BC, a thousand carbon years before carbon dated 3500 BC, when Genesis 14 happened. That's all I need.

Here we check how old Laish actually was when Abraham came:

2097 BC
74.949 pmC, dated as 4481 BC
2088 BC
Reu died
2086 BC
Terah born
2074 BC
76.074 pmC, dated as 4335 BC
2051 BC
77.1968 pmC, dated as 4191 BC
2028 BC
78.316 pmC, dated as 4048 BC
2016 BC
Abraham born
...
1936 BC
82.763 pmC, dated as 3500 BC

Source:
Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt


So, founded around 2100 BC, in 1935 BC it isn't 1000 years old, but about 165 + years old. It had seen the transition from Neolithic to maybe Chalcolithic, already. In Genesis, the last thing we hear of "iron" is in chapter 4, a pre-Flood chapter, so, while Abraham arguably knew from pre-Flood tradition, he also knew no one knew where to get it right then in his time.

Probably, in Moses' day, the text said "Laish" and later, perhaps just in or after Joshua's, it was renamed "Dan" or "Tel Dan".

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Easter Friday
10.IV.2026

* Abraham is born 2015 BC, or more correctly 2016 (Jesus is born in 2015 after Abraham's birth and 752 after Rome's founding, but Rome is founded in 753 BC), and this occurs after he was 75 in chapter 12 and before he was 86 in chapter 16. 2015 - 80 = 1935 BC.




mardi 7 avril 2026

A Dispensation is Usually Not an Obligation


Creation vs. Evolution: A Dispensation is Usually Not an Obligation · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Holy Hill and Keaton Halley Discuss Jesus' Words About Adam and Eve at the Beginning of the Created World

In the sections of the Catholic world which consider "John XXIII" through "Leo XIV" as legitimate Popes (the first has said Muslims and we worship the same God, the last has before his "election" participated in a rite of Pachamama worship with other clergy doing "inculturation"), there was a dispensation given (if so) by Pope (if so) "Paul VI" allowing to take Communion in the naked own hand, when you receive it.

Some have treated this dispensation (if such) as an obligation. Lots of people who are traditionally minded in the ones who accept "Paul VI" will say this was a clear overreach and pastoral abuse. We want to receive communion in the mouth, not in the hand, as we approach the altar rail (on which we want to kneel while receiving).

Where am I going with this?

Well, Paris when Vigouroux was teaching the Seminarians here or Rome 1909. Romans 8:22 is by some seen as concerning only human creation. Here is the passage verses 19 to 23, with the Haydock comment:

For the expectation of the creature waiteth for the revelation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him, that made it subject in hope: Because the creature also itself shall be delivered from the servitude of corruption, into the liberty of the glory of the children of God. For we know that every creature groaneth, and is in labour even till now. And not only it, but ourselves also, who have the first-fruits of the spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption of the sons of God, the redemption of our body.
Romans 8:19—23


Before citing the Haydock comment, I note that verse 23 seems to imply the rest has to be about non-human creatures. Because the restoration of the human nature is given as a parallel to this expected restoration of creation. But here is the Haydock comment, I'm replacing dashes between commenters with spaced lines:

Ver. 19. The expectation[2] of the creature. He speaks of the corporal creation, made for the use and service of man; and, by occasion of his sin made subject to vanity, that is, to a perpetual instability, tending to corruption and other defects; so that by a figure of speech, it is here said to groan and be in labour, and to long for its deliverance, which is then to come, when sin shall reign no more; and God shall raise the bodies, and united them to their souls, never more to separate, and to be in everlasting happiness in heaven. (Challoner)

Waiteth for the revelation of the sons of God. That is, for the time after this life, when it shall be made manifest that they are the sons of God, and heirs of the kingdom of his glory. Several interpreters understand all creatures whatsoever, even irrational and inanimate creatures of this world, which are represented as if they had a knowledge and sense of a more happy condition, of a new unchangeable state of perfection, which they are to receive at the end of the world. See 2 Peter i. 13; Apocalypse xxi. 1. Now every insensible creature is figuratively brought in groaning like a woman in labour, waiting, and wishing for that new and happy state; but in the mean time unwillingly made subject to vanity, i.e. to these changeable imperfections of generations and corruptions, which then they shall be delivered from. (Witham)

The creature, &c. The creatures expect with impatience, and hope with confidence, to see a happy change in their condition; they flatter themselves that they will be delivered from the captivity of sin, to which man has reduced them, and enter into the liberty of the glory of the sons of God. Not that the inanimate creation will really participate the happiness and glory of the elect; although in some sense they may be said to have part in it, since they will enter into a pure, incorruptible and perfect state to the end of ages. They will no longer be subject to those changes and vicissitudes which sin has brought upon them; nor will sinful man any longer abuse their beauty and goodness in offending the Creator of all. St. Ambrose and St. Jerome teach that the sun, moon, and stars will be then much more brilliant and beautiful than at present, no longer subject to those changes they at present suffer. Philo and Tertullian teach that the beasts of prey will then lay aside their ferocity, and venomous serpents their poisonous qualities. (Calmet)

Other, by the creature or creatures, understand men only, and Christians, who groan under miseries and temptations in this mortal life, amidst the vanities of this world, under the slavery of corruption; who having already (ver. 23.) received the first-fruits of the Spirit,[3] the grace of God in baptism, have been made the children of God, and now, with expectation and great earnestness, wait and long for a more perfect adoption of the sons of God: for the redemption of their bodies, when the bodies, as well as the souls of the elect, shall rise to an immortal life, and complete happiness in heaven. (Witham)


So, both Challoner and Calmet directly teach that insensible creatures (I could add their angels) and Witham is at least open to insensible creatures being the ones that receive this mutation of what is now vanity. How so "at least open"? Well, his first citation takes it directly into account and his second or last which reduces to man does so on the "others say" mode, not on "I say" or "this is true".

The visible Sun and Moon are presumably insensible creatures, at least this is the view of the Medieval diocese (later archdiocese) of Paris, as expressed in an Anti-Averroist condemnation by Bishop Tempier, 749 years and some ago, this is number 92 of his condemned theses:

Quod corpora celestia mouentur a principio intrinseco, quod est anima ; et quod mouentur per animam et per uirtutem appetitiuam, sicut animal. Sicut enim animal appetens mouetur, ita et celum.*

That the celestial bodies are moved by an intrinsic principle, that is a soul, and that they are moved by the soul and by the power of desire, like an animal. Because like the animal moves by desiring, so also heaven. [my translation]


So, Sun and Moon as we can see them presumably aren't very glorified corporeal living creatures. But they are bodies moved by angels. That wasn't condemned by Tempier. And their angels can and do long to see them celebrate (by greater splendour) the Resurrection of the Just with Glorified Bodies. Cattle don't have individual guardian angels, but they do have angels. See Numbers 22:

And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said: What have I done to thee? why strikest thou me, lo, now this third time?
Numbers 22:28


Here I cite only the beginning:

Ver. 28. Opened the mouth, &c. The angel moved the tongue of the ass, to utter these speeches, to rebuke, by the mouth of a brute beast, the brutal fury and folly of Balaam. (Challoner)

St. Thomas Aquinas (ii. 2. q. 105**) says, an angel spoke by the mouth of the ass, in like manner as the devil did by that of the serpent, Genesis iii. ...


So, we are in a sense allowed to believe the passage concerns only man. But we are absolutely not obliged to. Just as even those who consider "Paul VI" was Pope are not obliged to take Communion in the hand. And just as the dispensation doesn't make it illicit to argue against Communion in the hand, so also the quasi-dispensation mentioned by Witham (a number of scholars holding a position without being condemned is the equivalent of the position being at least allowed, at least by dispensation), absolutely doesn't mean we cannot argue for the passage concerning more than just man, especially as there is Patristic support for it.

I presume Vigouroux was saying that Romans 8:22 only concerns man. I tried to look it up. What I'm certain of is, he believed in beasts before people, ice ages before man, dinosaurs well before Adam, and so logically imagined suffering had been along since before Adam sinned. He was in Paris allowed to teach this.

In Rome, in 1909, he was given a very brief question, as judge, and judged in his own favour. But the question was very limited. It didn't cover a Flood other than fully global. It didn't cover suffering before sin. Not even in animals. It didn't involve saying "the Flood never covered the Pyrenees, not to mention Alps or Andes or Himalaya". It was only the bare question of Day-Age, and he judged, under Pius X, yes, you can discuss it. But that same holy Pope that same year canonised Clemens Maria Hofbauer.

I'm not sure if you've heard how Catholic Heliocentrics, when commenting on the Galileo affair, mention "Cardinal Baronius in this context stated that 'the Bible doesn't teach us how the Heavens go, but how to go to Heaven'" but Cardinal Baronius, while not a canonised saint, was a close disciple of one, namely of St. Philip Neri ("Third Apostle of Rome" after Peter and Paul, according to people who obviously agree that Rome was a Pagan city when Luther came to visit).

This is, even more than the simple fact he was a cardinal, a reason to consider with reverence the position of Baronius. However, we have no credible source whatsoever for Baronius stating this sentiment. Some say Galileo cited him in his letter to Grand Duchess Cristina, but Galileo never stated whom he was citing. It could have been someone very different from Baronius, and if it was Baronius, it was not in the context of the Galileo affair, since he died before it broke out.

Now, these Catholics do very rightly understand that the friend of a saint is probably of a similar mind to the saint himself, and therefore should be put pretty high as a theological authority. As said, this doesn't make Baronius*** a good support for the Heliocentric position, but ...

... in 1909, as I just mentioned, Clemens Maria Hofbauer was canonised. Not by Vigouroux, but by the Pope himself. And Hofbauer had a friend called Veith. And Veith wrote in defense of a recent creation and a global Flood.° We will presume Johannes Veith was faithful to the mind of the saint when he wrote the book.

But the problems don't stop here. Even supposing you accepted suffering before sin for non-human creatures, even supposing you somehow pretended Neanderthals and Denisovans aren't human despite us having genes from them in different populations, even then. Homo sapiens sapiens, the variety of us that has dominated since the Flood, can be traced back to, if you accept Deep Time at all and its dating methods, 100 000 + years ago (300 000 according to one find).

If you suppose Adam lived 300 000 years ago, that doesn't make Genesis 5 and 11 genealogies "genealogies with gaps", but "more gaps than genealogy" ... not a Swiss cheese genealogy, but a genealogy with more holes than cheese. Some have pretended the Genesis 5 genealogy was based on the Sumerian King List. What I find on wikipedia doesn't agree with that, I'm adding a division by a factor of 60 to the original info:

Alulim, 28 800 / 60 = 480
Alalngar, 36 000 / 60 = 600
En-men-lu-ana, 43 200 / 60 = 720
En-men-gal-ana, 28 800 / 60 = 480
Dumuzid, 36 000 / 60 = 600
En-sipad-zid-ana, 28 800 / 60 = 480
En-men-dur-ana, 21 000 / 60 = 350
Ubara-Tutu, 18 600 / 60 = 310

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List#Rulers_in_the_Sumerian_King_List


So, suppose the genealogies of 300 000 years were so badly preserved as to have only 22 generations, even if they were unusually long ones?

We would not be able to trust Genesis 3 as historic transmission, both because the timespan for oral transmission is too long, too many intermediaries, and because if this were the case, one would need to suppose adaptation of stories to cultural changes (many of them) for Genesis 4 (if Adam lived 300 000 years ago, his two first sons would not have been a pastoralist and a farmer), and also because the transmission would have failed for the genealogies themselves.

If on the other hand Adam was much more recent than the first man, this totally upsets the Catholic world view and is illicit in and of itself.

Some have, in favour of the theory of pre-Adamite Homo sapiens, argued that a human population created in the image of God cannot spend more than 100 000 years without inventing agriculture.

There are three problems with this position.

  • It does not follow, unless the dating methods stand firm.°°
  • It involves people with not only human anatomy but also certainly speech being soulless, a major blow to normal anthropological metaphysics as seen by St. Thomas Aquinas.
  • It leaves the transition from simili-human to real human populations entirely in the dark, especially as many genetic lines now existing separately from each other go back to before settled agriculture.


So, the argument doesn't allow for circumventing the ban on pre-Adamites.

Suppose instead Adam was created 6—7000+ years ago. All men, not just Homo sapiens sapiens come from him and Biblical genealogies hold.

  • The overlapping of generations makes the tradition about Genesis 2 and 3 reliable.°°°
  • The genealogies themselves are reliable.
  • No dating of a man older than this, whether of a pre-Flood man (as I suppose the cannibals of Atapuerca were, like their victim) older than creation, or a post-Flood man older than Flood, can be firmly established, either on documentary or on physical dating methods.
  • Cannibalism would have been part of the pre-Flood moral decay, as described in Genesis 6. We start to see a reason for the Flood.


Everything argues that the dispensation even before the Council to believe older times than Biblical chronology should not be used any more, as it has in the meantime shown itself to lead to conclusions harmful to the Faith.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Easter Tuesday
7.IV.2026

* Capitulum XII, Errores de celo et stellis
https://enfrancaissurantimodernism.blogspot.com/2012/01/capitulum-xii.html


Index in stephani tempier condempnationes
https://enfrancaissurantimodernism.blogspot.com/2012/01/index-in-stephani-tempier.html


** If the reference is to the Summa Theologiae, it seems muddled, or he had another edition. I looked up both the Prima Secundae and Secunda Secundae for Q 105. After the full stop, the paragraph continues and is credited with Maimonides, but that would concern only the sentence after the Thomasic comparison to Genesis 3.

*** Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: Was it Baronius and Did Galileo Recall His Words Accurately?
Thursday, November 7, 2024 | Posted by Hans Georg Lundahl at 2:56 PM
https://filolohika.blogspot.com/2024/11/was-it-baronius-and-did-galileo-recall.html


° J. E. Veith, Die Anfänge der Menschenwelt, Vienna, 1865; enumerated among Catholic predecessors of Henry Morris:

Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: Les Prédécesseurs catholiques de Henry Morris (jusqu'à 1920)
Friday, November 15, 2019 | Posted by Hans Georg Lundahl at 7:26 AM
https://filolohika.blogspot.com/2019/11/les-predecesseurs-catholiques-de-henry.html


Why 1920? My source is an encyclopedian article from that year, "Hexaméron", Dictionnaire de Théologie Catholique, VI-II, Ghezzi - Hizler, 1920, Paris.

°° See these two posts: Neolithic Agrarian to Industrial Revolutions : Uniformitarian vs Creationist · Palaeolithic to Neolithic Era : Uniformitarian vs Creationist

°°° See Haydock on Genesis 3:

Concerning the transactions of these early times, parents would no doubt be careful to instruct their children, by word of mouth, before any of the Scriptures were written; and Moses might derive much information from the same source, as a very few persons formed the chain of tradition, when they lived so many hundred years. Adam would converse with Mathusalem, who knew Sem, as the latter lived in the days of Abram. Isaac, Joseph, and Amram, the father of Moses, were contemporaries: so that seven persons might keep up the memory of things which had happened 2500 years before. But to entitle these accounts to absolute authority, the inspiration of God intervenes; and thus we are convinced, that no word of sacred writers can be questioned. (Haydock)


On my LXX based view of the chronology, this is not quite correct, but there are six "minimal overlaps" up to Abraham, and from Genesis 12 we already get more prolix reporting, suggesting that from Abraham's call, things were written down. That would have started with most of Genesis 1—11, and