lundi 23 novembre 2020

How Long is a Halflife, Then?


Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : Answering HolyKoolaid on Babel, part I · Creation vs. Evolution : "the consensus, based on tree ring and coral calibration" - Means What? · What Would Carbon Buildup, from Scratch, Normal Speed, Look Like? · How Long is a Halflife, Then?

Depends a bit on whom you are asking. We are, btw, dealing with that of Carbon 14.

Libby developed the method and considered the halflife as 5,568 years. Soon afterwards, the halflife was corrected to 5,730 years. Corrected because of calibration. Calibrated because of objects with a known age somewhat different from the age the carbon dating would predict.

6 * 5568 = 33,408 years
6 * 5730 = 34,380 years

Either way, six halflives is beyond the Biblical timescale.

Either way, again, six halflives also bring us to only 98.4375 pmC, if at all times the production is exactly the medium rate of production. So, how would even six halflives be sufficient? The production actually fluactuates, and levels as low as 98.202 pmC have occurred in the atmosphere of 950 (note : what we can detect of it by comparing objects from 950 - tree ring dated or historically dated - with its raw carbon date of "800 AD" / "1150 years" before 1950, according to how the the Cambridge half life gives, with pre-Industrial level, 1150 before 1950). And as that is lower than 98.4375 pmC, this value would enter into the present up and down swing.

Now, how does the observation fit into the Biblical timescale?

Could carbon levels still be rising? Hardly, since we are able to find a fairly constant carbon 14 level with a fairly consistent halflife, of 5,730 years. If we had carbon levels still rising, the historically known ages of objects from 1800 or 1400 (not disputed by any party I know of) as ages from when carbon levels would have been lower, would push the calibrations into a radically shorter carbon 14 halflife, and one which with a presumed equal level in 1800 and 1400 would differ between these.

Did carbon 14 levels start off high? No, then we would not have objects dating so old.

So, did carbon 14 production accelerate at a point and then decelerate to present level after getting close to modern level? Well, that is exactly my option.

After the Flood, God made a miracle* or asked angelic movers of the stars to do such, involving higher doses of radiation from the cosmos than before or after. Between Flood and Babel, this resulted in carbon 14 getting produced at around 10 times the present level of production. During Babel's 40-50 years, it was up in 11 times as much. This also resulted in the Ice Age.

But the main object of the miracle was to reduce how long man can live. Before the Flood, it had been over 900 years. During the c. 1000 years between Flood and Abraham, we shrink lifespans from 930 (Noah) and 600 (Shem, who lived more of his life after the Flood than his dad did) down to 175 (Abraham) and 120 (Moses). High doses of radiation are bad for you and for your descendance. This means, lifespans shrank. Before you state sth like God being cruel, we were, since Adam ate the fruit, not meant to live forever anyway. But also, a man who has lived 900 years, if he be good is definitely an asset for good, but if he be evil, he is an asset for evil. Why do you think God sent the Flood in the first place?

Genesis 6:3 And God said: My spirit shall not remain in man for ever, because he is flesh, and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.

Why? Verses 5 and 11 And God seeing that the wickedness of men was great on the earth, and that all the thought of their heart was bent upon evil at all times, ... And the earth was corrupted before God, and was filled with iniquity.

What did Jesus say about those times?

Luke 17 : [26] And as it came to pass in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. [27] They did eat and drink, they married wives, and were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark: and the flood came and destroyed them all.
Matthew 24 : [37] And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38] For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark, [39] And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.

In the days when vampyrism is a known occult deviation, and cannibalism is in the new, as well as gay marriage being common place, we can see somwhat what these words could mean. Cannibalism - inquity. Vampyrism - well, what if they consent? Gay marriage - obviously they consent, right? But Genesis 6 would be calling all three acts iniquity, if I get right what Jesus was foreseeing. Cannibalism before the Flood is easier to detect, because of scratch marks on human bones and because of DNA in dental calculus. Neanderthals have sometimes been cannibals, and "Antecessor" race with a population in Atapuerca have been cannibals in that place where they have been recently studied (their form is close to "Heidelbergians", their DNA to "Denisovans", so I think all three were same race). Hence my hunch Neanderthals and Denisovans were same race.

If correct, we see both why God sent the Flood, and if very old people were misleading youngsters, why God reduced life spans.

But as miracles, while not originating as integral parts of a natural sequence of cause and effect do continue into such sequences*, the higher radiation also had other effects, of which God did not so directly speak in the Bible. Namely Ice Age and ... what we are here concerned with : rising carbon 14 levels.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Pope St. Clement I
23.XI.2020

* See the page on this blog : What is a Miracle? What Does it Take?
https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/p/what-is-miracle-what-does-it-take.html


Appendix:

Check on effect if carbon level were still rising:
New blog on the kid : Examinons une hypothèse qui se trouve contrefactuelle un peu de près
http://nov9blogg9.blogspot.com/2015/10/examinons-une-hypothese-qui-se-trouve.html


Check on connexion between carbon 14 production and cosmic radiation:
Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : Other Check on Carbon Buildup
https://correspondentia-ioannis-georgii.blogspot.com/2017/11/other-check-on-carbon-buildup.html


Check on cosmic radiation and lowered temperatures:
Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : With Jay L. Wile on C14 Build-up
https://correspondentia-ioannis-georgii.blogspot.com/2015/10/with-jay-l-wile-on-c14-build-up.html

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