Clovis and Monte Verde

Creation vs. Evolution: Glacial Maximum and Younger Dryas? · Clovis and Monte Verde · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Reburial of the Kennewick Man

Abstract. Thirty-two radiocarbon ages on bone, charcoal, and carbonized plant remains from 10 Clovis sites range from 11,110 ± 40 to 10,820 ± 10 14C years before the present (yr B.P.). These radiocarbon ages provide a maximum calibrated (cal) age range for Clovis of ~13,050 to ~12,750 cal yr B.P.

The age of Clovis—13,050 to 12,750 cal yr B.P.
MICHAEL R. WATERS, THOMAS W. STAFFORD JR. AND DAVID L. CARLSON
SCIENCE ADVANCES, 21 Oct 2020, Vol 6, Issue 43, DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.aaz0455
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aaz0455

As the New Tables are supposed to be an alternative calibration, the correct way to use them is not to compare the calibrated dates, but the raw carbon dates, to them.

11,100 BP = 9,100 BC
10,820 BP = 8,820 BC

Unless the carbon dates 9600 — 8600 BC for Göbekli Tepe are calibrated rather than raw, in which case I'd be better remaking the tables, this means we are dealing with a range of very few years during the Babel event, which was about 40 of the 51 years from 350 to 401 after the Flood, i e 2607 to 2556 BC, i e death of Noah to birth of Peleg (the chronology of Roman Martyrology being for Genesis 11 a LXX without the second Cainan).

The entry of the first Asians into the New World is generally thought to have occurred no earlier than 12,000 years ago1,2. Recent archaeological evidence from South America suggests that the migration from Asia to North America might have taken place much earlier. This evidence comes from the Brazilian site of Boqueirao do Sitio da Pedra Fur ad a3,4, with a long cultural sequence possibly extending as far back as 32,000 yr BP, and the Chilean site of Monte Verde5,6. This latter site has one well-documented cultural episode radiocarbon dated at 13,000 yr BP7 and another possible one at 33,000 yr BP. We report here two carbon-14 dates from charcoal taken from cultural features associated with the older materials of ∼33,000 yr BP. These findings provide additional evidence that people colonized the Americas much earlier than was previously thought.

Early cultural evidence from Monte Verde in Chile
Tom D. Dillehay & Michael B. Collins
Nature volume 332, pages150–152 (1988)
https://www.nature.com/articles/332150a0

33 000 BP is soon after the Flood. Someone came to Monte Verde on a visit, while post-Flood mankind was probably still all people who knew each other as Noah's close kin.

13 000 BP is = 11 000 BC, so, earlier than Göbekli Tepe if a raw date.

If Göbekli Tepe itself is not a raw but a calibrated date, as said, then both Clovis and Monte Verde are pre Babel, as I have previously stated, but as stated here, this would make my New Tables slightly less useful./HGL

PS, it would not make them totally useless, as often the only available date, the one given to the broad public (and I don't have Research Gate!) is the calibrated one. Here they are, again:

Creation vs. Evolution : New Tables
https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2020/08/new-tables.html

PPS, it would seem Göbekli Tepe is NOT a raw date, but a calibrated one, so, the Clovis culture actually did still speak Hebrew. You see, Clovis is before the Younger Dryas, and Göbekli Tepe / Babel is after it. My New Tables are roughly speaking useful, but are not a calibration of raw dates as should be done, at this point, but a calibration of an already calibrated date. At Joseph in Egypt, I gave the raw date for Djoser's coffin, a calibrated date would be 2600 BC rather than 2800 BC for the real 1700 BC./HGL