samedi 21 mars 2026

Steppe People in Alternative Calibrations


Chronology of wikipedian articles:

"core Yamnaya culture"
= Mikhaylivka I
c. 3600–3400 BC

Yamnaya culture
3300–2600

Corded Ware culture
c. 3000 BC – 2350 BC

Bell Beaker culture
(Central Western Europe)
2800-2300 BC
(Britain)
2450-1800 BC
Tajo: cultura arqueológica de Vila Nova de São Pedro
2900 al 2500 a. C.


On one carbon dated timeline:

Mikhaylivka I begins
3600 BC
Mikhaylivka I ends
3400 BC
Yamnaya begins
3300 BC
Corded ware begins
3000 BC
VN de SP begins
2900 BC
CW-E BB begins
2800 BC
Yamnaya ends
2600 BC
VN de SP ends
2500 BC
Br BB begins
2450 BC
Corded ware ends
2350 BC
CW-E BB ends
2300 BC
Br BB ends
1800 BC


It's superimposed on my current* tables:

1982 BC
80.546 pmC, dated as 3770 BC
1965 BC
Serug died
1959 BC
81.656 pmC, dated as 3634 BC
Mikhaylivka I begins
3600 BC
1957 BC
Nahor died
1936 BC
82.763 pmC, dated as 3500 BC
1930
Ishmael born
1916 BC
Isaac born.
83.166 pmC, dated as 3440 BC
Mikhaylivka I ends
3400 BC
1897 BC
83.568 pmC, dated as 3381 BC
1881 BC
Terah died
1877 BC
83.97 pmC, dated as 3321 BC
Yamnaya begins
3300 BC
1857 BC
84.371 pmC, dated as 3262 BC
1856 BC
Jacob and Esau born
1841 BC
Abraham died
1838 BC
84.77 pmC, dated as 3204 BC
1818 BC
85.169 pmC, dated as 3145 BC
1816 BC
Esau is 40, Jacob goes to Laban
1798 BC
85.566 pmC, dated as 3087 BC
1797 BC
Joseph born
1796 BC
Jacob leaves Laban
1793 BC
Ishmael died
1779 BC
85.963 pmC, dated as 3029 BC
Corded ware begins
3000 BC
1759 BC
86.359 pmC, dated as 2971 BC
1739 BC
86.754 pmC, dated as 2914 BC
VN de SP begins
2900 BC
1736 BC
Isaac died
1726 BC
Jacob came to Egypt.
1720 BC
87.148 pmC, dated as 2857 BC
1709 BC
Jacob died.
1700 BC
87.541 pmC, dated as 2800 BC
CW-E BB begins
2800 BC
1687
Joseph dies.
1678 BC
89.449 pmC, dated as 2600 BC
Yamnaya ends
2600 BC
VN de SP ends
2500 BC
Br BB begins
2450 BC
1656 BC
91.353 pmC, dated as 2404 BC
Corded ware ends
2350 BC
CW-E BB ends
2300 BC
1634 BC
93.251 pmC, dated as 2212 BC
1612 BC
95.145 pmC, dated as 2023 BC
1590 BC
97.033 pmC, dated as 1839 BC
Br BB ends
1800 BC
1574 BC
97.392 pmC, dated as 1793 BC


Superimposed on my proposal for improvement after initial interaction with Petrovich.**

1982 1882 BC
80.546 pmC, dated as 3770 BC
Mikhaylivka I begins
3600 BC
1830 BC
81.708 pmC, so dated 3500 BC.
Mikhaylivka I ends
3400 BC
Yamnaya begins
3300 BC
Corded ware begins
3000 BC
1724 BC
86.369 pmC, so dated 2935 BC.
VN de SP begins
2900 BC
CW-E BB begins
2800 BC
Yamnaya ends
2600 BC
VN de SP ends
2500 BC
Br BB begins
2450 BC
1618 BC
90.971 pmC, so dated 2400 BC
Corded ware ends
2350 BC
CW-E BB ends
2300 BC
1512 BC
95.515 pmC, so dated 1891 BC
Br BB ends
1800 BC
1459 BC
97.764 pmC, so dated 1646 BC


And on the one after the further*** interaction:

Mikhaylivka I begins
3600 BC
1870 BC
82.104 pmC, so dated as 3500 BC
Mikhaylivka I ends
3400 BC
Yamnaya begins
3300 BC
1831 BC
84.652 pmC, so dated as 3208 BC
Corded ware begins
3000 BC
1792 BC
87.187 pmC, so dated as 2925 BC
VN de SP begins
2900 BC
CW-E BB begins
2800 BC
1753 BC
89.71 pmC, so dated as 2651 BC
Yamnaya ends
2600 BC
VN de SP ends
2500 BC
Br BB begins
2450 BC
Corded ware ends
2350 BC
1714 BC
92.222 pmC, so dated as 2383 BC
CW-E BB ends
2300 BC
1675 BC
94.721 pmC, so dated as 2123 BC
1636 BC
97.562 pmC, so dated as 1840 BC
Br BB ends
1800 BC
1598 BC
97.703 pmC, so dated as 1790 BC


So, what would each of my recalibrations do to the duration of the process? From start of Mikhaylivka I to Bell Beakers ending in Britain.

Uniformitarian calibration: 3600 to 1800 BC, 1800 years.
My current: 1959 to 1574 BC, 385 years.
My first alternative proposal: c. 1860 to 1486 BC, 374 years.
My second alternative proposal: c. 1890 to 1598 BC, 292 years.


Only the spread part, now. From start of Mikhaylivka I to Bell Beakers beginning in Britain.

Uniformitarian calibration: 3600 to 2450 BC, 1150 years
My current: 1959 to 1656 BC, 303 years (less)
My first alternative proposal: c. 1860 to 1618 BC, 242 years
My second alternative proposal: c. 1890 to 1714 BC, 176 years


For the total span of cultures, 4.675, 4.813 or 6.164 times quicker. For the spread from Mikhaylivka to Britain, 3.795, 4.752 or 6.534 times quicker.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Benedict of Nursia
21.III.2026

In monte Cassino natalis sancti Benedicti Abbatis, qui in Occidente fere collapsam Monachorum disciplinam restituit ac mirifice propagavit; cujus vitam, virtutibus et miraculis gloriosam, beatus Gregorius Papa conscripsit.

PS. Notice, I said "Steppe People" and not "Indo-Europeans" ... I'm quite open to Indo-European being a Sprachbund, and I don't think the Steppe People were necessarily or even probably speakers of Indo-European./HGL




* Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt, marginally table III—IV, all of table IV—V, Newer Tables, Joseph in Egypt to Fall of Troy, all of table V—VI, marginally table VI—VI/VII.

** Suppose I were Wrong on Chronological Matches Related to Egypt?

*** If I Got Douglas Petrovich Right, Sesostris III was Pharao when Joseph Received his Family

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