Deen Academy Underlines that Biblical and Quranic Flood (As he sees it) are Not the Same

How did Noah fit EVERY animal on the Ark? The Islamic Truth
Deen Academy | 1 July 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2tw12az6N4

5:22 — after 5:46

Regarding the story of Noah, unfortunately, some Muslims today think that the Islamic story of Noah is the same as the biblical one, which is absolutely not the case. They believe that somehow the flood of Noah was worldwide, and he literally gathered all of those 1.6m species of animals on one wooden boat. Guys, this story is from the Bible. There is zero, zero verses or hadith claiming that that ever happened.

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6:28 — 6:50

And in our case today, the case of Noah, it actually contradicts what Allah said in Surah Al-A'raf. Those who drowned in the flood are those who disbelieved in the message of Noah. I want you to think about this exclusivity. Everyone who drowned initially met Noah, heard the message from him, understood it, and then purposely denied it, meaning the flood strictly affected those who lived in the area where Noah lived or maybe traveled.

If this is what Mohammed meant, he was not a sailor. Watch this:

Incredible story of boy swept away by Boxing Day tsunami who survived for 3 WEEKS alone
The Sun | 26 Dec. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnV9UwQKguQ

The boy survived for three weeks, because he was not near the coast, not where the water was shallow and waves sharp. The same is true of the table he floated on.

A Flood drowning two villages would destroy the Ark of the Bible. Only a global Flood could allow it to float.

If the sea floor is 9 meters below the surface, waves go around a radius of maximally 9 meters. If the sea floor is a km or two under a surface, waves go around a radius of maximally a km or two, probably not that much, but certainly bigger than nine meters. And that allows the surface to be fairly smooth even in very intense waves. The SS Wyoming didn't sink in the Atlantic, it sank in Nantucket Bay, where the medium depth is nine meters.

One can add, if one wants to quibble, that Deen Academy misrepresents the Bible. The text doesn't use a word for Linnean species, a concept that didn't exist. It does not even use the word "species" corresponding to Linnean species, but "genus" which verbally might correspond to genus. I don't think it usually does (except for genus homo = mankind), but it verbally corresponds.

However, I think the Ark had one pair of hedgehogs. That's not a species, there are 17 species of hedgehog. That's not even a genus, there are five species of hedgehogs. That's a whole subfamily (the other subfamily of the family being gymnures, which might also descend from that pair).

If one wants to really quibble, even on the level of species, it's a misrepresentation. Most of these species are insects and many of the rest are sealife. The Biblical story speaks of land animals and birds being passengers on the Ark, not of plants, fish or insects being so. Some may have been on the Ark as food, but none were so as passengers. We need birds, reptiles, possibly amphibians, and mammals.

11 000 / 17 = 647 pairs of birds
12 000 / 17 = 706 pairs of reptiles
6 640 / 17 = 391 pairs of mammals
possibly
8 000 / 17 = 471 pairs of amphibians

647 + 706 + 391 + 471 = 2215 pairs

Or families? I search F search on "family" in "list of Amphibian genera", dito reptile genera, bird genera. For mammals, I do sth different, no F search required:

Mammalia is a class of vertebrate animals. Members of this class are called mammals. It comprises 5,909 extant species, which are grouped into 163 families, themselves grouped into 27 orders in 3 major divisions.

From the article List of mammals.

Amphibians 129 pairs
Reptiles 95 pairs
Birds 262 pairs
Mammals 163 pairs

129 + 95 + 262 + 163 = 649 pairs

So, the Islamic answer (according to Deen Academy) is, in 120 years, Noah's message reached only two villages, when an entire world was in iniquity or violence or oppression. Hence, those that were outside the two villages were spared, Noah's Ark survived the water that drowned two villages, which is really a feat if it could even take in the species of animals of the region, which defies all probability of known behaviour of waves or ships.

Meanwhile the Biblical answer (if you ask me) involves, in 120 years, the whole Nodian civilisation would have heard of that trouble maker Noah who insisted on building a big box intended to float as if the world was going to drown, but even those who hadn't would have known cannibalism was wrong, like we have seen cannibalism in Atapuerca (and the dating being potassium argon tells me that it was buried beneath lava from the break up of the fountains of the deep, so it was before the Flood, and the same is true of the cannibalised skulls near Solo river), the Ark survived society for 120 years because people wanted to have sth to laugh about, and it survived the waves because the Ark took off from the highest pre-Flood mountain (possibly one that was sandpapered into the Meseta by the Flood) into a global Ocean, where the waves had a big radius and didn't pose a threat to the floating of the Ark.

And above mathematics shows, the Ark was adequate for the couples it was supposed to have as guests.

In 2004, a society which took men like Gabriel Matzneff as paying guests had forgotten the thing about the Ark. The boy survived to prove, a global Ocean was safer for the Ark than a flooding area flooding two villages.

Meanwhile, apart from a doubt in Islamic sources and a negative in Chinese accounts, mixing up the Flood account with an account of a China wide flooding, most sources among Pagans confirm the Bible. Norse myth places the Flood before creation, but it clearly means, even if earth is a disc above what was then, the Flood took all of Jotunheim except part of the rim, where Bergelmer survived. The Babylonian account says Ziusudra got into his giant coracle in Shuruppak, 9 metres above the Persian Gulf, and landed on Mount Nisir, identified as Pira Magrun with 2,588 m above sea level. How does a vessel of any kind, coracle, boat or huge box, float upwards to an elevation that is 2580 metres higher if only two villages are drowned, like Franco did near Jaca, to form the Yesa Reservoir? Greeks also say that the flood was sufficiently world spanning for the survivors to be peopling both Greece and Egypt. Again, doesn't sound like two villages to me.

Remember, if you prefer even a very large regional flood, not just two villages, but maybe two or three countries in a valley, like all of Mesopotamia, even then the water depth is too shallow for safe floating around of the Ark.

I wonder whether Deen Academy will dare to answer me ... or even to try.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
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PS, the man in the video doesn't tell the exact same story that I recall from the news back then. Suppose this is the correct version, this still leaves a solution for the global Ocean if we look at rafts across the Pacific, like Kon Tiki, and it still poses a two problems for a "two villages were drowned view", as in how could God allow the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami after the promise in Genesis 9, and how could the Ark survive such a shallow water?/HGL