mardi 3 septembre 2019

Corporality of Resurrection Body


Does CMI deal with end times? / Well, both yes and no!
by Gary Bates, Lita Cosner | Published: 3 September 2019 (GMT+10)
https://creation.com/end-times


When people think of heaven and our resurrected state, many imagine an ethereal or ghost-like spiritual realm where we’ll all sit on clouds and play harps. However, that fails to appreciate God’s purpose in creating the earth to be a perfect home for humanity, and that fails to appreciate God’s plan to restore the original lost paradise. ... That’s why the Resurrection of Christ is so important—He was raised with a glorified physical body—the same sort of body that we will receive (1 Corinthians 15).

Some people think that when Paul refers to a ‘spiritual body’ in 1 Corinthians 15:44, this means that we will have a non-physical body. However, this misunderstands what Paul means. When Paul talks about ‘earthly’ and ‘spiritual’ bodies, he isn’t referring to what the bodies are composed of, but of what motivates and drives the desires of the different bodies.

Another misconception some people have is that in the Resurrection we will not experience time. But as creatures, we have a beginning in time, and we will remain ‘time-bound’ even in the resurrection. Think about it—we will experience events one after another, so even though it’s not certain how we will measure time in the context of an eternal existence, we will experience time. Only God is outside of time. When we look forward to worshipping and singing to God, for example, music involves timekeeping. If we are walking from one gate to another in the New Jerusalem, it will take time to travel there.


Gary, Lita, I highly endorse all of this.

Howoever, if I may recommend you a few corrolaries.

  • Our Lord's Resurrection body is numerically identic, while qualitatively different, from what His body was before dying on Calvary. This means, He still has the wounds from Calvary to show the Father, and He also still has the Blessed Virgin Mary as Mother. Is it probable He left His mother in the grave? Church Tradition (Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Miaphysite both Copt and Armenian, Nestorian) says no, She was raised to Heaven after Her earthly life was finished. In the Kingdom of Judah, the mother of the King is Queen. Just in case you are thinking of Jeremiah 44 several verses or Jeremiah 7:18, if you were giving your mother a present and some crook were claiming it for himself or herself, would you not be angry at that person and anyone agreeing? Well, Ishtar is a demon, therefore worse than a crook, and also a slut. So, if God intended His Mother to be the real Queen of Heaven, Jeremiah 44 is perfectly explicable in the light of this.

  • Christ's Body is still there, seated on a throne in Heaven (habitually, perhaps not 24/24), and so it can be bilocated to presence where external appearances of bread or wine is seen as visible signs of it. I've talked to Evangelicals who say "no, it can't, Christ was resumed in the Godhead and there is no longer any physical body present anywhere" - glad you disagree on this objection to Catholic views of the Eucharist (to which the still present wound marks are also relevant, Apocalypse 5:6 are to be conferred with "sacrifice of the Mass").

  • Since Christ's Body is and our risen bodies will be in definite places, Heaven has to be a place.

    This goes against the idea of 13.8 billion lightyears from one limit of visible space to another, and agrees with Empyraean Heaven being just beyond, just above the sphere of the fix stars. Which is easier to show plausible with Geocentrism.


Many of the Protestants who would disagree on these points are by now also disagreeing with corporality of Resurrection Bodies, and therefore you disagree with them.

Oh by the way, when I am basically suggesting a Catholic conversion, I do not mean "Pope Francis" at least from his so far record of non-Catholicity.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Neuilly Plaisance
Pope St. Pius X
3.IX.2019

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