mercredi 30 novembre 2022

I am Stopping their Video at 11:34


Here it is:

Chimp-Human DNA: Less similar than previously reported
CMI Video | 9 Nov. 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNLoEGu0po


They are saying 450 million nucleotides would have had to be produced, if evolution were true.

Here are the data they base it on. I'll give it in blockquote so as not to credit myself, even if it's not an exact quote, but a summary of what they had previously said:

3 billion base pairs in the human genome.

16 % dissimilarity between man and chimp by two more recent studies than the famous "1 %" or "99 %" study.

480 million? As the similarity was actually somewhat above 84 %, the dissimilarity is actually below 16 %. So, replacing 480 million with 450 million is not a big deal.


What about 240 million? If half the mutations are on the chimp side, only half need be on the human side. Or 225 million.

How much would that take?

6 million years since Ardi (most recent species cited as common ancestor of men and chimps).

20 years per generation.* 6 million years by 20 = 300 000 generations.

240 000 000 / 300 000 = 800 mutations per generation.
225 000 000 / 300 000 = 750 mutations per generation.

That meaning net actually getting into all of the gene pool mutations. Not like one generation making 750 mutations between all different parts of the ancestry, but one generation making so many that are in fact also preserved.

Let me explain a bit.

We have 23 chromosome pairs. Each in two examples.

We all have one example each from the father, one example each from the mother (Adam, Eve and Jesus being exceptions).

For the generation before that, we cannot for instance have 23 chromosomes from one grandparent unless we also lack any from the other one. So, each grandparent is ancestral to anything between 0 and 23 of our 46 chromosomes, but around 12 or 13. 46 / 4 = 12.5, but 12.5 is not an option, since chromosomes come only in wholes. Also, 0 or 23 from one grandparent is a highly unlikely option.

When the ancestors become more than 46, we certainly don't have one chromosome from each any more. Some of them are in our lineage, but not in our genetic makeup.

Greatgrandparents. 8 people, often enough 8 different ones. 46 / 8 = 5.75, but 5.75 is not an option. On average, we have 5 or more likely 6 chromosomes from each. Already here, there could be one or two we have nothing from.

Their parents are 16 people. 46 / 16 = 2.875, which is not an option. We have on average three chromosomes from each great-great-great-grandparent, unless one is so more than once.

They have parents that are 32 people (often enough NOT 32 different ones), 46 / 32 = 1.4375, which is not an option, so from each great-great-great-great-grandparent, one has in average one or two chromosomes.

As to their parents, 46 / 64 = 0.71875, which is not an option. On average, one would have one chromosome from each, but zero from 18 of them. If you have two chromosomes from one great-great-great-great-great-grandparent, or from one great-grandparent of a great-grandparent, and he's not such more than once, it means you have zero from 19 of them. If you have three from one or two from two of them, you have zero from 20 of them, except the times the one who gave you more than one chromosome was an ancestor more than once over (meaning, he has more than one Sosa-Stradonitz ancestry number).

From their parents, 128 people, you still get only 46 chromosomes. In other words, variants are being lost all of the time. Obviously, a variant of your ancestor 128 or 255 (these are the extremes known as father's father etc and mother's mother etc) which is lost to you can be preserved in someone else, whom they are also 128 or 255 to. But even so, mutations leading up to becoming man would have been competing with lots of other mutations not leading that direction.

In other words, inheriting about 750 to 800 locus mutations from each generation for 6 million years is pretty unlikely. Unless ...

"it's impossible that that many changes wouldn't have introduced serious genetic defects, which would have destroyed the evolving life forms"

This is said at 11:50 of the video. Get back to it, it is good. Well, so far. But I see no indications it's getting downward.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Andrew
30.XI.2022

Apud Patras, in Achaja, natalis sancti Andreae Apostoli, qui in Thracia et Scythia sacrum Christi Evangelium praedicavit. Is, ab Aegea Proconsule comprehensus, primum in carcere clausus est, deinde gravissime caesus, ad ultimum suspensus in cruce, in ea populum docens biduo supervixit; et, rogato Domino ne eum sineret de cruce deponi, circumdatus est magno splendore de caelo, et, abscedente postmodum lumine, emisit spiritum.

PS There are in some issues just before and just after 20 minutes. Post upcoming with my comments to those, tomorrow./HGL

Notes:
* Confirmed that a chimp generation is not radically shorter:

As they report today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, chimpanzee mothers ranged in age from 11.7 to 45.4 years at the birth of their offspring. The average age of reproduction was 25 years for females and 24 years for males, giving them an average generation time of about 25 years.


Generation Gaps Suggest Ancient Human-Ape Split
The ancestors of today's humans and chimpanzees may have diverged millions of years earlier than thought
13 AUG 2012 BY ANN GIBBONS
https://www.science.org/content/article/generation-gaps-suggest-ancient-human-ape-split


Also states:

When they applied the new rates to the history of all three species, they calculated that humans and chimps split earlier than expected—at least 7 million to 8 million years ago and possibly as early as 13 million years ago. They estimate the split between gorillas and the lineage leading to humans and chimpanzees to 8 million to 19 million years ago.

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