mercredi 19 novembre 2025

Neanderthals Pre-Flood, So Not Ice Age ...


The greatest argument against this position of mine is, they were so adapted to cold.

Now, this theory, implied in the Uniformitarian view of the Ice Age and of the dates of Neanderthal skeleta, has involved speculation about the nasal cavities.

And this time, we have news that contradicts it.

Live Science: 'Perfectly preserved' Neanderthal skull bones suggest their noses didn't evolve to warm air
Kristina Killgrove | 17.XI.2025
https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/human-evolution/perfectly-preserved-neanderthal-skull-bones-suggest-their-noses-didnt-evolve-to-warm-air


One theory for Neanderthals' large noses is that they had equally large sinuses and an enhanced airway that evolved as adaptations to living in cold, dry environments. Their particular nasal anatomy may have been useful for warming and humidifying the air before it reached their lungs. But all previous studies of Neanderthal nasal anatomy were based on approximations of the delicate bones in the nose cavity, since these bones — the ethmoid, vomer and inferior nasal conchae — were broken or missing in every Neanderthal skull ever found.


However, they weren't missing in the Altamura man, so, one could check. And that particular theory doesn't work. Those bones are just like in modern men.

The facts are not incompatible with a cold climate, but the most specific adaptation, that of the nose, is lacking to show up the way the theory predicted. So, while Evolutionary anthropologists do have their view on how it still fits their overall narrative ...

Rather than viewing the Neanderthal nose as a unique adaptation to cold weather, it is better to understand it as an efficient way to change the temperature and humidity of the inhaled air required to run Neanderthals' massive bodies. Numerous environmental pressures and physical constraints likely helped shape the Neanderthal face, Buzi said, "resulting in a model alternative to ours, yet perfectly functional for the harsh climate of the European Late Pleistocene."


... we have one less proof. Rae noted that Northern European and Arctic members of the current post-Flood humanity, all of which is classified as "Homo sapiens" (that being his choice of words) both lack broad noses. So, the non-broad nose of Neanderthals could have been an adaption, not to the locally Arctic conditions of the Ice Age, in the early post-Flood world, but to pre-Flood conditions not unlike Northern Europe./HGL

vendredi 31 octobre 2025

A Km Deep Global Ocean ... Navigable Or Would the Ark Have Floundered?


Exhibit A:

North Sea Lifeboats: How the RNLI saves lives in this treacherous patch of water
RNLI | 21 Aug. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh382Be0CSU


Takeaway: the North Sea is treacherous and dangerous to boats.

Exhibit B:

For the most part, the sea lies on the European continental shelf with a mean depth of 90 metres (300 ft).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea#Major_features


Footnoted:

[1] L.M.A. (1985). "Europe". In University of Chicago (ed.). Encyclopædia Britannica Macropædia. Vol. 18 (Fifteenth ed.). U.S.A.: Encyclopædia Britannica Inc. pp. 832–835. ISBN 978-0-85229-423-9.
[7] Calow, Peter (1999). Blackwell's Concise Encyclopedia of Environmental Management. Blackwell Publishing. ISBN 978-0-632-04951-6. Archived from the original on 17 April 2023. Retrieved 26 December 2008.


Takeaway: the North Sea is far shallower than 1 km on average.

Conclusion:

It's the shallow waters that are dangerous, not the deep ones./HGL

samedi 25 octobre 2025

Disagreeing with CMI on Two Items of Biblical History


Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Disagreeing with CMI · Creation vs. Evolution: Disagreeing with CMI on Two Items of Biblical History

I agree on the principle in Biblical history and the role of science by Jonathan Sarfati from 2011.

Earth is about 6,000 years old, since Jesus said mankind was there from the ‘beginning of creation’, not billions of years later (Mark 10:6).


This is proof of Biblical chronology, not necessarily Masoretic chronology. I consider Genesis 5 and 11 should have LXX text family readings for chronological purposes, and that Earth is a bit more than 7200 years old.

God then judged the people by confusing their language at Babel—after they had refused to spread out and repopulate the Earth after the Flood (Genesis 10:25; 11:1–9).


This presumes that there was no spread prior to Babel. I would say there was spread, but political and cultural unity. The dispersion meant the élite could no longer band together in one place, not that men in general had previously done so, after the Flood.

I would also not consider that the subject "all the earth" (feminine singular) is identic to the subject "they" (forms for masculine plural) between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis 11.

Genesis 11:1 is a closing remark to table of nations, since "according to their languages" had been mentioned, remarking that this split of languages hadn't occurred yet when the table is mainly from. This means that "they" can be distinct from "all the earth" and be a far less numerous élite. Once post-Babel cities of Nimrod's empire and Peleg were added to the table, the verse became a transition to the Genesis 11 story./HGL

lundi 20 octobre 2025

What's "pmC"?


I was asked on a FB group, after showing my Newer tables, whether pmC was about the atmosphere and the amount of carbon 14.

First, it's not just the atmosphere, it's the atmosphere and any other sample.

Second, it's not exactly an amount. You can't take 1 theoretical kg of pure carbon 14 and call that so and so many pmC, unless you state in how many trillions of kg of carbon 12 it's diluted in.

Now, once you have both the quantity of carbon 14 and the quantity of carbon 12, usually the latter counted in grammes, you can indeed calculate what the pmC is, but it's not simply the ratio.

No, it's how that ratio compares to another ratio. And that other ratio is termed "modern carbon 14" and more precisely "corrected for pre-industrial values" ...

So, once you know that value and have termed it "[100 percent of] modern carbon 14" any value the scientist finds can be compared to it. Suppose for argument's sake that "100 pmC" means "1 unit carbon 14 per 1 000 000 000 units carbon 12", that means in turn that if what you find in a sample is (on the same assumption) "1 unit carbon 14 per 2 000 000 000 units carbon 12" the measure is "50 pmC" / 50 % of modern carbon.

That's the measuring part of the issue. And I don't do that. I do however theorise what pmC values succeeded each other in the atmosphere. BACK THEN.

Before I tell you more, one more check on the theory I share with evolutionists. Any carbon 14 will decay to half in 5730 years. The carbon 14 present in the atmosphere in 3705 BC or 1494 after Creation or 748 before the Flood, only half of it remains. If the atmosphere back then had been 100 pmC, a sample from the actual year 3730 BC would no doubt be 50 pmC today. If the atmosphere back then was instead 1 pmC, a sample from that year would now have a carbon 14 level of 0.5 pmC. AND, those 50 or 0.5 pmC or whatever, they are all the carbon 14 that remains from back then. Any level exceeding that has been added later by new production of carbon 14 in the atmosphere.

In a sample, usually no more carbon 14 is added. A plant once harvested ceases to get carbon dioxide into its fibres and sugars by photosynthesis. That's why the only relevant factors for the pmC in the sample are:

  • original pmC in the atmosphere, for instance around 100 pmC in all AD times and about a millennium back before that;
  • times a decimal fraction equalling the pmC value with the decimal comma moved two places back. So, since 3705 BC, "* 0.5" or since 840 BC, "* 0.70710678"


Whatever new carbon 14 is created in the atmosphere is however totally irrelevant to the value in the sample, even if it is highly relevant to the value at present in the atmosphere and therefore how we measure "100 pmC" ...

And here is the deal. 100 pmC isn't a constant per se. It's a quasi constant, resulting from a constant decay rate, but also from a quasi-constant, in the present, rate of carbon 14 production.

So, since 840 BC, only 70.711 pmC remain, in a sample, or in the atmosphere. But if instead of 70.711 we have c. 100 pmC (not really any longer, but in 1850 it was), this means that 29.289 pmC have been net produced in the meantime. Doesn't mean 14.6445 pmC was produced in each half of 1432.5 years, no, since in the second of them, no 14.6445 pmC could remain of the first half. You see, in 1432.5 years, 100 pmC goes down to 84.09 pm, meaning the original new 14.6445 pmC would be down in 12.3145 pmC. So, in each half, more than 14.6445 pmC is produced, in fact 15.91 pmC are produced. But the point is, over 2865 years, a net, production and its own decay compounded, of 29.289 pmC is produced.

What would have happened if 840 BC the atmosphere held 100 pmC, but only 14.6445 pmC had been produced since then? We'd be down in 85.3555 pmC instead of 100 pmC.

A sample of 85.3555 pmC dates as 1300 years old.

What would have happened if 840 BC the atmosphere held 100 pmC, but 58.578 pmC had been produced? We'd be up in 129.289 pmC.

A sample of 129.289 pmC dates as "-2120" or 2120 years into the future. (Such samples do exist, if for instance a sample has been exposed to a nuclear explosion).

The thing is, while this isn't what has happened, at least of the halflife really is 5730 years, and we can know that, within some credible possibility of discrepancy; it certainly could have happened, or the idea that it couldn't depends on making stars and the sun so much more deterministic than observation at a distance allows us to be about them. One of the factors for the speed of carbon 14 production is precisely, how much cosmic rays hits the outer atmosphere.

My proposal is, something like that did happen, a slower pmC rise before the Flood, a quicker between the Flood and the Fall of Troy.

This is the theoretical background to Newer Tables: Preliminaries · Flood to Joseph in Egypt · Joseph in Egypt to Fall of Troy. It is equally the theoretical background to all its predecessors back to Avec un peu d'aide de Fibonacci ... j'ai une table, presque correcte (ten years ago, or it will be so last of this month) and its ultraclumsy precursor on the 5 of the same month. I had in fact figured that my tables could be read by people who knew how carbon dating worked, but apparently, this is not the case with everyone who took an interest.
/Hans Georg Lundahl

Portrait of Robert Broom, Not That Ugly, Compare the Palaeontological Designation


Here, John Woodmorappe mentions Robert Broom.

Entertaining storytelling about the presumed evolution of mammals
by John Woodmorappe | This article is from
Journal of Creation 38(2):37–40, August 2024
https://creation.com/review-the-rise-and-reign-of-the-mammals-brusatte


A review of: The Rise and Reign of the Mammals: A new history from the shadow of the dinosaurs to us by Steve Brusatte, Mariner Press, New York, 2022


Turns out, in my attempts to salvage the content of the site Palaeocritti, before it went down, I came across his name, both as discoverer, and as namegiver without personal involvement:

Palaeocritti Blog: Broomicephalus laticeps
https://palaeocritti.blogspot.com/2013/11/broomicephalus-laticeps.html


By the way, my link to the original site which went down is now re-directing to Crit-Ti Palaeo which is defined as "Paleontology meeting" ...

Point is, Broomicephalus means Broom's head. I wondered "was Broom that ugly?"



https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Broomicephalus1DB.jpg

GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2


I then noted, no, "Broom's" is because Broom discovered it, and "head" is because he only found a ... skull.

But still, if you want to tell someone he's excruciatingly ugly, Broomicephalus or Biarmosuchian might be the word you are looking for. Not that you should, usually./HGL

dimanche 12 octobre 2025

Did Samuel Noah Kramer Prove the Ziggurat of Ur was the Tower of Babel?


Creation vs. Evolution: What a Few Lines from Gilgamesh Epic Tell us of the Errors in Babylonian Theology · Aberrations of Protestant Work Ethic · Work Ethic in the Neolithic and Genesis 11 · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Denying Adam's Individuality : Babylonian · back to Creation vs. Evolution: Did Samuel Noah Kramer Prove the Ziggurat of Ur was the Tower of Babel?

I don't think so, but here he is making, not in his own view, but to some, a fairly strong case:

"Before I Die, Please Listen" — Assyriologist Samuel Noah Kramer Admits the Truth About Sumerians
Secret World Files | 11 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZZ1P4oOt-k


If Ur and that Ziggurat wasn't the Tower Project, it came close to being a continuation of it. Which I think it was. The phrase "plain of Mesopotamia" is mentioned, and no, it doesn't argue in favour. If Shinar is the land between the two rivers, at Ur, Shinar is in the plain. And you can't exactly find it, you don't have to look for it. It's visible from the last mountain East of Mesopotamia. The Harran plain, by contrast, is a plain that's inside Shinar, transitions into hill country, before reaching rivers East or West. If you looked from Mt. Judi, which is where I think the Ark landed, you might see just hill country and miss the plain. So, the Harran plain is a better fit for "they found a plain in the land of Shinar".

Now, if I said the Ziggurat of Ur was a continuation ... first, phrases like "binding heaven" seem to echo Nimrod's project of preventing another Flood. Second, how much time was there from the failure of the original Babel to the advent of this new, Sumerian one? Let's also take in the Ziggurat of Eridu.

III, Peleg is born, end of Babel
2557 BC
51.766 pmC, dated as 8000 BC

Eridu Z. Level XVIII 5300
2235 BC
68.129 pmC, dated as 5407 BC
2218 BC
Peleg died
2212 BC
69.274 pmC, dated as 5247 BC

Eridu Z. Level I 3200
1841 BC
Abraham died
1838 BC
84.77 pmC, dated as 3204 BC

Ur Z, building begins "2040 BC"
1615 BC
94.87443 pmC, dated 2050 BC*

Ur Z, building ends "2000 BC"
1609 BC
95.41471 pmC, dated 1997 BC**


So, from end of Babel to Eridu level XVIII (lowest), there are c. 339 years. Over the levels of Eridu Z, 380 years. From Eridu level I to beginning of the Ziggurat of Ur, c. 223 years. From failure of Nimrod's Babel to completion of Ur-Nammu's Ziggurat, 948 years.

The Ziggurat of Ur was started and completed during the soujourn of the Israelites in Egypt, unless I'm wrong. The Ziggurat of Eridu starts when Peleg dies and got as far as to when Abraham died.

By contrast, when Peleg was born, Nimrod's Babel was covered in sand, I'd say deliberately. And when St. John wrote the Apocalypse, or maybe the Gospel a bit later, Sumerian and Akkadian ceased to be spoken and written as learned languages.

Samuel Noah Kramer admired Sumerian scribes for manufacturing the collective subjective reality. By "subjective reality" one often, alas, speaks of an individual subjective reality. By "objective reality" even worse, one speaks indistictly of collective subjective or of extra-mental. However, the extra-mental is only made accessible by the subjective, and the subjective is only collective after being individual. By placing the collective over the individual, discoveries about the extra-mental are impeded or severely slowed down.

The ideology which Samuel Noah Kramer discovered was an identity between heaven and earth and social order. It's the same one where Creation results pretty immediately in bakeries, as per the beginning of the Gilgamesh Epic.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
XVIII Lord's Day after Pentecost
12.X.2025

The tables above are (with addition of salient points about ZZ) either quotes or medium values from Newer Tables: Preliminaries · Flood to Joseph in Egypt · Joseph in Egypt to Fall of Troy. The sources of medium values are given in the below footnotes./HGL

* From:

1634 BC
93.251 pmC, dated as 2212 BC
1612 BC
95.145 pmC, dated as 2023 BC


(1634 + 1612 + 1612 + 1612 + 1612 + 1612 + 1612)/7 = 1615.1428571428571429
(93.251 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145)/7 = 94.87443 pmC

5730 * log(0.9487443) / log(0.5) + 1615.1428571428571429 = 2050 BC

** From:

1612 BC
95.145 pmC, dated as 2023 BC
1590 BC
97.033 pmC, dated as 1839 BC


(1612 + 1612 + 1612 + 1612 + 1612 + 1612 + 1590)/7 = 1608.8571428571428571
(95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 95.145 + 97.033)/7 = 95.41471

5730 * log(0.9541471) / log(0.5) + 1608.8571428571428571 = 1996.8720719579191615934

vendredi 10 octobre 2025

What's the Chronology of Tiryns?


This is a fascinating video:

What Was REALLY Going On At Bronze Age Tiryns?
Pete Kelly | 10 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b5TN1QmN60


Although Pete Kelly doesn't say so, I find that the Tholos tomb in Tiryns having uniquely an altar for hero worship in the Bronze Age is an argument for a hero of Tiryns being actually worshipped. Economy proposes this hero would be identic to Herakles.

But based on its size and analysis of the potsherd, it appears the tomb was built for a cult hero in between 1300 and 1400 BC. It is believed the tomb was either never used as designed or was looted during Roman times.

Atlas Obscura: Tholos Tomb of Tiryns
gus kontopuls | October 16, 2019
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tholos-tomb-of-tiryns


But I am here mainly for dryer stuff, namely the chronology. First the one given (piece by piece) in the video:

Neolithic Greece
c. 7000 — 3200 BC

Early Helladic Greece
3000 — 2000 BC

Tiryns Culture
2200 — 2000 BC

Middle Helladic
2000 — 1550 BC

Mycenaean Greece
1600 — 1100 BC

Acropolis Fortification, Tiryns, First Stage
1500 BC


Then the recalibration of limit years:

2442 BC
57.683 pmC, dated as 6990 BC = 7000 BC

1838 BC
84.77 pmC, dated as 3204 BC = 3200 BC

1769 BC
86.161 pmC, dated as 3000 BC = 3000 BC

1634 BC
93.251 pmC, dated as 2212 BC = 2200 BC

1612 BC
95.145 pmC, dated as 2023 BC = 2000 BC

1511 BC
98.822 pmC, dated as 1609 BC = 1600 BC

1471 BC
99.049 pmC, dated as 1550 BC = 1550 BC

1430 BC
99.183 pmC, dated as 1498 BC = 1500 BC


Finally, the revision of the first chronology, after this:

Neolithic Greece
c. 2442 — 1838 BC

Early Helladic Greece
1769 — 1612 BC

Tiryns Culture
1634 — 1612 BC

Middle Helladic
1612 — 1471 BC

Mycenaean Greece
1511 — 1100 BC

Acropolis Fortification, Tiryns, First Stage
1430 BC


So, 7000 BC to 1500 BC recalibrates to 2442 to 1430 BC. 5500 years to 1012 years. But recall, this is not all of Tiryns' history and its surrounding's prequels. It ends in 1100 BC. No recalibration. 5900 years recalibrate as 1342 years./HGL

PS, recalibrations based on tables and principles in Newer Tables: Preliminaries · Flood to Joseph in Egypt · Joseph in Egypt to Fall of Troy./HGL