dimanche 7 juillet 2013

Creationism and Catholicism go well together (second example)

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If Tas Walker is right, Pius XII was not wrong to canonise Steno!

Actually Steno was not canonised yet, only beatified, and by John Paul II, as stated in following:

Creationism and Catholicism go well together (second example)
Where do you find Dinosaurs over Trilobites?
Steno and "Vertical Barbecue" contra John Laurie

I already noted as to Wilberforce, Wilberforce and Wilberforce, that the father was the abolitionist, the one son, as creation.com notes, the man who debated the creationist side against evolutionist Huxley, and the other son, as they failed to note, a convert to Catholicism.

Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Wilberforce, Wilberforce and Wilberforce

Now, Saint Niels Steensen (or Nicolaus Steno) is another example.

Nicolas Steno in Catholic Encyclopedia

The Christian Science Monitor : Nicolas Steno: The saint who undermined creationism


Steno never publicly renounced this Biblical time frame, but his geological investigations clearly challenged it. How could an honest person looking at, say, the Alps, explain the immense movement of rock, the folding, faulting, and erosion of land, the depositing of sedimentary strata, in the span of just 56 centuries? Alternatively if God created the earth's surface in its present form and then created plants and animals, how, exactly, did their remains wind up embedded inside solid rock?

He was not a believer in uniformatarianism and thus he believed that mountains had formed quickly after the flood.

Other quote:

Gregor Mendel, an Augustinian friar, developed a model of inheritance that made Darwin's theory of evolution intelligible.

Mendel's laws implied existence of chromosomes, which are an major stumbling block for Darwinism. It is well prepared to deal with locus mutations, but not with changing numbers of chromosomes.

Great Creation Scientists: Nicolaus Steno
Founder of modern geology and young–Earth creationist
by Ann Lamont, B.Sc., M.Ed.St.

She mentions he was brought up as a Lutheran, but does not mention his Catholic Conversion. There is nothing controversial about the evidence for it, though.

I was wrongly under the same false impression as Asimov (see Ann Lamont's article), that his geological views were at variance with the Bible. Now I have evidence this is not true. He was as true to the word of Genesis in his Geology, as he was to the word of the Gospel ... in his Roman Catholic conversion.

You see, what made him decide for Catholicism was mainly the discovery that the Catholic Church took literally the words of Our Lord "for this is my body" and "for this is my blood".

He died making "geological observations" of another kind than his more famous ones, namely looking at the earth while freezing to death. How so? Why? He was a bishop "in partibus infidelium", a Missionary Bishop among the Lutheran infidels, who did not hold to the literal truth of the Gospel. He lived as a beggar and died as a vagabond, because of Lutheran inhospitality towards a Roman Catholic correcting their errors and bringing the Salvation that their own "Church" was cheating them of.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
BpI, Georges Pompidou
Sunday after St Maria Goretti

PS, in previous post I wrongly ascribed canonisation of Steno to Pope Pius XII, it was John Paul II who only beatified him. Now that I know this beatified man was not a founder of uniformitarian Genesis-denial, there is one less thing to raise against John Paul II (rather than, as I thought, against Pius XII).

8 commentaires:

  1. Catholicism and Evolution are oil and water: http://www.faithfulanswers.com/the-traditional-catholic-doctrine-of-creation/

  2. If you will look up my index post and then go to the group of posts concerned with theology, you will see I agree with Hugh Owen.

  3. INdex post (right now incomplete, I am lagging behind in the incorporation of new articles).

  4. Index post (see left margin)

    Right now I am behind when it comes to linking to new articles from it.

  5. I like the table very much, but there is one detail that bugs me.

    St Augustine on day length:

    figurative Literal Meaning of Genesis Book 5, Ch3

    No doubt that locus is where St Thomas Aquinas also got his impression from that St Augustine agreed with Origen that the six days are six consecutive views the angels had at a merely one moment long creation.

    Problem is - is this his settled view or not?

    If it was I think modernity would litter internet with editions of De Genesi ad Litteram Libri duodecim in translations to all languages.

    But if instead he said basically that that was one possibility and that he had earlier entertained it, it is clear why wikisource in no language lists De Genesi ad Literam libri Duodecim on the online available works of the author.

    Russian has only Confessions and City of God. German has no works. English not only does not distinguish Libri Duodecim from Liber imperfectus, but it is even red - article / work not extant on "The Literal Meaning of Genesis".

    In Latin wikisource are listed three works De Genesi ad Litteram libri duodecim De Genesi ad Litteram imperfectus liber De Genesi contra Manichaeos libri duo - all in red.

    You look at Spanish, French and Italian wikisource.