vendredi 25 octobre 2019

For Those who Do Take Vatican II as a Valid Council


Benno Zuiddam's View of Catholicism and Creationism · First World History · Is Dei Verbum a Young Earth Creationist Document? · Ambiguous Sentence Found · For Those who Do Take Vatican II as a Valid Council

If it was, Dei Verbum is dogma.

However, after what I saw, there is no central definition in it, to which the dogmatic character is tied, making all of the narration of it dogmatic.

But the narration includes paragraph 3, which is mentioned is Young Earth Creationist.

Previous to Vatican II some derogations from Young Earth Creationism had certainly been granted as options. However, these would have to be considered on your view as less authoritative than the dogma of Vatican II's Dogmatic Constitution on the Word of God.

Invoking the 1909 decision which allows taking creation days as longer periods, not just I have already explained how this is inadequate, one either must accept more or less of Uniformitarian timelines of Big History, but also, it would be like invoking St. Thomas Aquinas against Ineffabilis Deus to prove that the Blessed Virgin were saved from Original Sin only in the second moment of Her existance, after one moment with it. An opinion of one real doctor of the Church is however less authoritative than one bull of a real pope claiming to define dogma.

And a response in Pontifical Biblical Commission is also less authoritative than one dogmatic constitution of a real Council of the Church.

Only two documents are named "dogmatic constitution" in that council (which I hold to be invalid, as long as Pope Michael doesn't change his mind on that matter), it is Dei Verbum and Lumen Gentium. Only two other documents are at all considered constitutions, namely Sacrosanctum concilium being one on sacred liturgy and Gaudium et Spes being only a pastoral one. These four constitutions have all of them more weight than the three declarations and the nine decrees. But only two of them are considered as dogmatic, by those accepting the council, and Dei Verbum, with its Young Earth Creationist paragraph 3, is one of the two.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Torcy
St. Front of Perigueux
25.X.2019

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