samedi 5 mars 2022

Two Arguments for Alexander that Atheists (and Likeminded) Should Not Use - Or Three


Kevin R. Henke Hans Georg Lundahl
Kevin R. Henke's Essay: Alexander the Great (356-323 BC) and the Talking Snake of Genesis 3: History?
Four Hypotheses of Kevin R. Henke for Historicity of Genesis 3
On Verifying the Supernatural
Several Types of "Supernatural" Featured in Stories Believed to be True
Two Arguments for Alexander that Atheists (and Likeminded) Should Not Use - Or Three
Undecisives
Real Confirmation : Too Late and Too Little Outside Greco-Roman Sphere
The Real Reason Why we Can and Could All the Time Say we Know Alexander's Carreer


Why specifically Atheists and people of similar culture if not identic theoretic stance?

Because these arguments are in fact arguments for Moses and Christ as well!

Alexander's Letter to Chios.

McDaniel, 14.VI.2019
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2019/06/14/what-evidence-is-there-for-the-existence-of-alexander-the-great-quite-a-lot/


no mention

Kevin R. Henke, 1.III.2022
https://correspondentia-ioannis-georgii.blogspot.com/2022/03/kevin-r-henkes-essay-alexander-great.html


Alexander existed, because he wrote a letter to the Chians, available as an inscription.

My reply
And Moses does not exist, because he wrote the Pentateuch?

Heisserer is confident the slab is from when Alexander was around, but depends on Arrian for the interpretation.

There is no physical dating, the dating as contemporary depends on Arrian who wasn't a contemporary.

Palaeography had very small variations in letter shapes to play with back in the time of majuscule only, as between 4th and 1st CC. BC. It is also possible to copy successfully older writing styles as well as older linguistic styles. Apollonius of Rhodes was no contemporary of Homer and Hesiod, but his Argonautica (from 3rd C. BC) could on such criteria have been dated to their time, if we didn't know better.

The real reason to believe the letter to the Chians is my argument that the first known audience is an adequate judge of the authorship of a text, seeing that later known audiences are less close to the authorship. Precisely as with genre of a narrative being historic or fiction.


Alexander Sarcophagus

McDaniel, 14.VI.2019
Depicts Alexander's exploits.

Kevin R. Henke, 1.III.2022
Depicts his exploits, is probably the burial of someone else - Abdalonymus - and definitely not his own. However Abdalonymus is claimed to have been installed as King of Sidon by Alexander, but this is now disputed.

The artwork is in style with art from that period.

My reply
The Shroud of Turin is better proof of Christ, in this case.

Btw, the claim of forgery as per carbon dates too late has been debunked:

The Shroud of Turin : Were the radiocarbon dating laboratories duped by a computer hacker? (1)
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2014/02/were-radiocarbon-laboratories-duped-by.html


Were the radiocarbon dating laboratories duped by a computer hacker? (2)
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2014/02/were-radiocarbon-laboratories-duped-by_20.html


Were the radiocarbon dating laboratories duped by a computer hacker? (3)
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2014/02/were-radiocarbon-laboratories-duped-by_22.html


The Marcus Aurelius Column, as per Richard Carrier, has a depiction of an event pagans attributed to an Egyptian magician and Christians to prayers by a Christian legion.

The Rain Miracle of Marcus Aurelius: A Case Study in Christian Lies
BY RICHARD CARRIER ON MAY 27, 2017
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/12480


As I believe Arrian, I also believe Abdalonymus was installed by Alexander. But neither McDaniel or Henke can yse that argument, their position being the five 1st C. Historians are inadequate proof of Alexander's carreer.


The Hellenistic Era.

McDaniel, 14.VI.2019
The Hellenistic era shows it started with Alexander

Kevin R. Henke, 1.III.2022
no mention.

My reply
The Hellenistic era is a kind of cultural community (to which among others Apollonius of Rhodes belonged) and a community usually knows how it started.

Like New York knows - independently of old archives, which actually also are accessible as confirmation - that it began with Nieuw Amsterdam.

Exactly as "the Jewish Church" knows it started with God making a covenant with Moses, and that it later split into Jewish proper and Samaritan after the rule of King Solomon.

Exactly as the Catholic Church knows it started with Christ showing Himself to be God by the Resurrection and making a covenant with His chief disciples, Matthew 28, followed by the sending of the Holy Ghost, Acts 2.

Objection 1
Rome thought it was founded by Romulus, but wasn't.

Answer
Romulus doesn't need Mars for actual father to have existed, and apart from that, ditching the story in Livy is guesswork.

Objection 2
Athens and China pretend to have started with Kekrops and Fu Hsi who had human torso and arms and head, but below the torse the body of a large snake.

Answer
Probably they were both born in the time after the Flood when cosmic radiation was higher from above and radiation from pre-Flood nuke wars in the ground was higher too, and were born with legs not properly separated, and managed to move by wiggling around. This didn't stop them from becoming leaders, unlike what it would in these days of medical tyranny.

Objection 3
Mormons thought there were 5th C. AD Mormons on later COTUS territory.

Answer
Yes, but they are quite aware that they themselves as Latter Day continuators of a supposed Mormoni actually started by Joseph Smith.


Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Phocas
5.III.2022

Antiochiae natalis sancti Phocae Martyris, qui, post multas, quas pro nomine Redemptoris passus est, injurias, qualiter de antiquo illo serpente triumphaverit, hodie quoque populis eo miraculo declaratur, quod, si quispiam a serpente morsus fuerit, hic, ut januam Basilicae Martyris credens attigerit, confestim, evacuata veneni virtute, sanatur.
(miracle of snake bite cure up to when the martyrology is from, it was in Antioch)

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