Newer Tables, Flood to Joseph in Egypt

Newer Tables: Preliminaries · Flood to Joseph in Egypt · Joseph in Egypt to Fall of Troy.

I, the Flood It's a Biblical event, and it left traces. The thing is just knowing what traces that carbon date are from the Flood. And I'd say the supereruption of Campi Flegrei cuts the bill. That eruption gave a marked decline of Neanderthals that I consider as pre-Flood, and no bodies or body parts of pure Neanderthals have been found after the date. A recent discovery named "Thorin" as the last Neanderthal. Thorin, the last Neanderthal 52 min documentary directed by Pascal Cuissot produced by Fred Hilgemann Films (ARTE, 2024) https://www.renaud-barbier.com/en/thorin-the-last-neanderthal/ The date of Thorin was 42 000 BP or 40 000 BC, fits a Flood in carbon dated 39 000 BP or 37 000 BC pretty well. The Gorham caves show Neanderthal typical artefacts with charcoal that's younger, but no actual Neanderthal that's younger./HGL

I—I/II

Starts out 2958 BC,

1.6277 pmC, dated as 37 000 BC

2956 BC

Arphaxad born

2958-2738 = 220 years

10 * 22 years

3.611 times as fast

0.9973422400389199 * = decay

0.0026577599610801 = normal replacement

Replacement in these sections

0.96 pmC points

Long calculation of first stop 2958 - 22 = 2936 0.9973422400389199 * 0.0162771032469586 = 0.01623384261366646654192530401614 0.01623384261366646654192530401614 + 0.0095981000845884760579187626401557034644682299180800131735112968 = 0.0258319426982549425998440666562957034644682299180800131735112968 x = 5730 * log(0.0258319426982549425998440666562957034644682299180800131735112968) / log(0.5) x = 30224.031251931194472847209715714682439894756321341837792768328392499 30224 + 2936 = 33160

Or for short

2958 BC

1.6277 pmC, dated as 37 000 BC

2956 BC

Arphaxad born

2936 BC

2.583 pmC, dated as 33,160 BC

2914 BC

3.536 pmC, dated as 30,542 BC

2892 BC

4.487 pmC, dated as 28,552 BC

2870 BC

5.434 pmC, dated as 26,946 BC

2848 BC

6.38 pmC, dated as 25,598 BC

2826 BC

7.323 pmC, dated as 24,437 BC

2821 BC

Shelah born

2804 BC

8.263 pmC, dated as 23,416 BC

2782 BC

9.201 pmC, dated as 22,505 BC

2760 BC

10.136 pmC, dated as 21,683 BC

2738 BC

11.069 pmC, dated as 20,933 BC

I/II—II

Actually no big deal, just a convenient midpoint for changing the speed.

Starts out 2738 BC

11.069 pmC, dated as 20,933 BC

2738—2608 = 130 years,

10 * 13 years

20.86 times as fast

0.998428650637827 * = decay

0.001571349362173 = normal replacement

Replacement in these sections

3.278 pmC points

2725 BC

14.329 pmC, dated as 18,786 BC

2712 BC

17.585 pmC, dated as 17,081 BC

2699 BC (!)

20.835 pmC, dated as 15,666 BC

2691 BC

Eber born

2686 BC

24.08 pmC, dated as 14,456 BC

2673 BC

27.32 pmC, dated as 13,399 BC

2660 BC

30.555 pmC, dated as 12,461 BC

2647 BC

33.784 pmC, dated as 11,618 BC

2634 BC

37.009 pmC, dated as 10,851 BC

2621 BC

40.229 pmC, dated as 10,148 BC

2608 BC

43.443 pmC, 9500 BC

II, Noah dies, beginning of Babel This is only possible in a specific LXX based chronology, which I adher to. In a LXX text without the Second Cainan, Peleg is born 401 after the Flood, meaning a period of 51 years which according to some involve 40 years of building "the tower" whatever that was. I think it probable that Noah was dead only little before Babel started, because I think that Nimrod pretended to have his greenlight for the project (fraudulently, after he had actually died). I think Gilgamesh meeting Utnapishtim reflects this bluff. If Noah had already been dead for over a century before Nimrod began, it's not credible that he could have pulled the bluff off. This rules out the longer more standard LXX chronology with the Second Cainan. On the other hand, if Peleg had been born in 101 BC, Noah would still have been alive. There is also some probability there was a sham consultation of Noah from the fact that (my source is here Josephus) Nimrod presented the project as a way to avoid the next Flood.

II—III

Starting out 2608 BC

43.443 pmC, 9500 BC

2608-2557 = 51 years

3 * 17 years

13.967 times as fast

0.9979456554564614 * = decay

0.0020543445435386 = normal replacement

Replacement in these sections

2.869 pmC points

2591 BC

46.223 pmC, dated as 8970 BC

2574 BC

48.998 pmC, dated as 8471 BC

2557 BC

51.766 pmC, dated as 8000 BC

III, Peleg is born, end of Babel Confer what I said in previous. In a full LXX chronology, Peleg's birth would still have been the end of Babel, but there would have been no corresponding major shift 40 years previous as the death of Noah presumes.

III—IV

Starting out 2557 BC

51.766 pmC, dated as 8000 BC

2557-1936 = 621 years

27 * 23 years

4.801 times as fast

0.9972216007456389 * = decay

0.0027783992543611 = normal replacement

Replacement in this sections

1.334 pmC points

2534 BC

52.956 pmC, dated as 7789 BC

2511 BC

54.143 pmC, dated as 7583 BC

2488 BC

55.327 pmC, dated as 7381 BC

2465 BC

56.507 pmC, dated as 7184 BC

2456 BC

Shem died

2442 BC

57.683 pmC, dated as 6990 BC

2427 BC

Reu born

2419 BC

58.857 pmC, dated as 6801 BC

2396 BC

60.027 pmC, dated 6615 BC

2391 BC

Arphaxad died

2373 BC

61.194 pmC, dated as 6433 BC

2361 BC

Shelah died

2350 BC (!)

62.358 pmC, dated as 6254 BC

2327 BC (!)

63.519 pmC, dated as 6079 BC

2304 BC

64.676 pmC, dated as 5906 BC

2295 BC

Serug born

2281 BC

65.83 pmC, dated as 5737 BC

2258 BC

66.981 pmC, dated as 5571 BC

2235 BC

68.129 pmC, dated as 5407 BC

2218 BC

Peleg died

2212 BC

69.274 pmC, dated as 5247 BC

2189 BC

70.415 pmC, dated as 5089 BC

2187 BC

Eber died

2166 BC

71.553 pmC, dated as 4933 BC

2165 BC

Nahor born

2143 BC

72.688 pmC, dated as 4780 BC

2120 BC

73.82 pmC, dated as 4629 BC

2097 BC

74.949 pmC, dated as 4481 BC

2088 BC

Reu died

2086 BC

Terah born

2074 BC

76.074 pmC, dated as 4335 BC

2051 BC

77.1968 pmC, dated as 4191 BC

2028 BC

78.316 pmC, dated as 4048 BC

2016 BC

Abraham born

Was 4000 BC in Carbon dates in or close to Abraham's birthyear? Let's check previous and following stops, and do some medium and calibrated medium. (2028 + 2005) / 2 = 2016.5 (0.7831617799 + 0.7943242318) _______________ = 0.7887430058 2 5730*log(0.7887430058) _____________________ + 2016.5 = 3978 log(0.5) (2028 + 2028 + 2005) / 3 = 2020.333... (0.7831617799 + 0.7831617799 + 0.7943242318) _______________ = 0.7868825972 3 5730*log(0.7868825972) _____________________ + 2020.333... = 4001.6509744942 log(0.5) So, about 4 years prior to his birth would have been past 4000 BC in carbon dates. And that carbon date is when Cannibalism stopped in the last of the three caves the archaeologists have for the Neolithic cannibals. Fontbrégoua cave involved six corpses from "6000 years ago" with cut marks pointing to cannibalism. Archaeologists Rediscover Cannibals ANN GIBBONS | SCIENCE 1 Aug 1997Vol 277, Issue 5326 pp. 635-637 DOI: 10.1126/science.277.5326.6 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.277.5326.635

2005 BC

79.432 pmC, dated as 3909 BC

1982 BC

80.546 pmC, dated as 3770 BC

1965 BC

Serug died

1959 BC

81.656 pmC, dated as 3634 BC

1957 BC

Nahor died

1936 BC

82.763 pmC, dated as 3500 BC

IV Genesis 14 This tying together is probably the strongest. In Genesis 14, the Amorrhites of Asason-Tamar are shown as attcked, which would be a natural occasion for an evacuation. Asason-Tamar, as Osgood pointed out, is also known as En-Geddi, and basically the only candidate for the Amorrhite occupation of the site would have been the Chalcolithic one. It ended with an evacuation of Temple treasure and this on reed mats that have been carbon dated to 3500 BC.

IV—V

Starting out, 1936 BC

82.763 pmC, dated as 3500 BC

1936-1700 = 236 years

12 * 19 and 2/3 years

2.525 times as fast

0.9976237884420209 * = decay

0.0023762115579791 = normal replacement

Replacement in these sections

0.6 pmC points

1930

Ishmael born

1916 BC

Isaac born.

83.166 pmC, dated as 3440 BC

1897 BC

83.568 pmC, dated as 3381 BC

1881 BC

Terah died

1877 BC

83.97 pmC, dated as 3321 BC

1857 BC

84.371 pmC, dated as 3262 BC

1856 BC

Jacob and Esau born

1841 BC

Abraham died

1838 BC

84.77 pmC, dated as 3204 BC

1818 BC

85.169 pmC, dated as 3145 BC

1816 BC

Esau is 40, Jacob goes to Laban

1798 BC

85.566 pmC, dated as 3087 BC

1797 BC

Joseph born

1796 BC

Jacob leaves Laban

1793 BC

Ishmael died

1779 BC

85.963 pmC, dated as 3029 BC

1759 BC

86.359 pmC, dated as 2971 BC

1739 BC

86.754 pmC, dated as 2914 BC

1736 BC

Isaac died

1726 BC

Jacob came to Egypt.

1720 BC

87.148 pmC, dated as 2857 BC

1709 BC

Jacob died.

1700 BC

87.541 pmC, dated as 2800 BC

V, Djoser, Joseph's Pharao dies I thought I had Joseph = Imhotep in CMI, seems to be incorrect. GotQuestions concludes in the negative, based on a) Djoser lived in the 27th C. BC, b) the theology is different. I would reply, a) Djoser actually died much more recently (and yes, he's one pharao we know existed, we have his tomb). As recently as 1700 BC or there around, c. 20 years after receiving Jacob into Egypt. The REAL 2700 tp 2601 BC would carbon date as 15,666 BC in the Palaeolithic to 9278 BC, in early Babel. And b) what do you expect of Pagans? I expect Krishna was a real person, real pre-Flood participant of a war involved in Genesis 6:11, but I expect it was Pagan error that made Krishna a god, and Pagan error that gave the theological interpretation of the Mahabharata war. Similarily, I'd expect Khemetists to get Joseph wrong, but still certainly to remember him. Aardsma's correspondent Mrs. Beverly J. Neises in Is Imhotep Joseph? makes a further point that Imhotep's father is on some monument in Wadi el Hammammat given as Ka-nefer. However, one could assume the reference being more than 1000 years after the actual Joseph, and Egyptian nationalism being what it was, Ka-nefer would be likely to replace Jacob, unless it was an honorary Egyptian name for him, or Ka-nefer could have been a man Joseph was temporarily adopted by. Or, if his wife was not Asenath, or even if she was, Ka-nefer could have been the father-in-law. If we accept 1609 as the carbon date of 1511 and 3500 as that for 1936, the straight medium carbon level and carbon date for 1700 would be 91.68 pmC, 4.139 pmC points higher, and the carbon date would be 2418 BC. This would fit Merefnebef, whom Patrick Clarke suggested in Joseph’s Zaphenath Paaneah—a chronological key. I have not looked into that much.