Dates for Scandinavian Prehistory, Revisited, Most Recent Tables

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The Scandinavian Peninsula became ice-free around the end of the last ice age. The Nordic Stone Age begins at that time, with the Upper Paleolithic Ahrensburg culture, giving way to the Mesolithic hunter-gatherers by the 7th millennium BC (Maglemosian culture c. 7500–6000 BC, Kongemose culture c. 6000–5200 BC, Ertebølle culture c. 5300–3950 BC). The Neolithic stage is marked by the Funnelbeaker culture (4000–2700 BC), followed by the Pitted Ware culture (3200–2300 BC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_prehistory

The Nordic Stone Age refers to the Stone Age of Scandinavia. During the Weichselian glaciation (115,000 – 11,700 years ago), almost all of Scandinavia was buried beneath a thick permanent ice cover, thus, the Stone Age came rather late to this region. As the climate slowly warmed up by the end of the ice age, nomadic hunters from central Europe sporadically visited the region. However, it was not until around 12,000 BCE that permanent, but nomadic, habitation in the region took root.

Around 11,400 BCE, the Bromme culture emerged in Southern Scandinavia. This was a more rapidly warming era providing opportunity for other substantial hunting game animals than the ubiquitous reindeer. As former hunter-gather cultures, the Bromme culture was still largely dependent on reindeer and lived a nomadic life, but their camps diversified significantly and they were the first people to settle Southern Scandinavia (and the Southern Baltic area) on a permanent, yet still nomadic, basis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Stone_Age

The Ahrensburg culture or Ahrensburgian (c. 12,900 to 11,700 BP[1]) was a late Upper Paleolithic nomadic hunter culture (or technocomplex) in north-central Europe during the Younger Dryas, the last spell of cold at the end of the Weichsel glaciation resulting in deforestation and the formation of a tundra with bushy arctic white birch and rowan. The most important prey was the wild reindeer. The earliest definite finds of arrow and bow date to this culture, though these weapons might have been invented earlier. The Ahrensburgian was preceded by the Hamburg and Federmesser cultures and superseded by the Maglemosian and Swiderian cultures. Ahrensburgian finds were made in southern and western Scandinavia, the North German plain and western Poland. The Ahrensburgian area also included vast stretches of land now at the bottom of the North and Baltic Sea, since during the Younger Dryas the coastline took a much more northern course than today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrensburg_culture

My Latest Tables, in French:

New blog on the kid : Mes plus récentes tables de carbone 14
Wednesday 1 May 2024 | Posted by Hans Georg Lundahl at 09:28
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Let's do it.

However, it was not until around 12,000 BCE that permanent, but nomadic, habitation in the region took root.

2659 av. J.-Chr.

30,528 pcm, donc daté à 12 459 av. J.-Chr.

2633 av. J.-Chr.

36,973 pcm , donc daté à 10 883 av. J.-Chr.

(2659 + 2633) / 2 = 2646 BC

(30.528 + 36.973) / 2 = 33.7505 pmC => 9000

9000 + 2646 = 11646 BC, no, too late

(2659 + 2659 + 2633) / 3 = 2650 BC

(30.528 + 30.528 + 36.973) / 3 = 32.676 pmC => 9250

9250 + 2650 = 11900 BC, still too late, but better

(2659 + 2659 + 2659 + 2633) / 4 = 2653 BC

(30.528 + 30.528 + 30.528 + 36.973) / 4 = 32.13925 pmC => 9400

9400 + 2653 = 12053 a bit too early, better still.

Around 11,400 BCE, the Bromme culture emerged in Southern Scandinavia.

(2659 + 2633 + 2633) / 3 = 2642 BC

(30.528 + 36.973 + 36.973) / 3 = 34.825 pmC => 8700

8700 + 2642 = 11342, a bit too late, but tolerable

The Ahrensburg culture or Ahrensburgian (c. 12,900 to ...) [= 10 900 BC to ...]

2633 av. J.-Chr.

36,973 pcm , donc daté à 10 883 av. J.-Chr.

The Ahrensburg culture or Ahrensburgian (c. ... to 11,700 BP[1]) [= ... to 9 700 BC]

2633 av. J.-Chr.

36,973 pcm , donc daté à 10 883 av. J.-Chr.

2607 av. J.-Chr.

43,398 / 43,438 pcm, donc daté à 9507 av. J.-Chr.

9507 - 2607 = 6900, .5^(6900/5730) => 43.401 pmC

(2633 + 2607 + 2607 + 2607 + 2607 + 2607) / 6 = 2611 BC

(36.973 + 43.401 + 43.401 + 43.401 + 43.401 + 43.401) / 6 = 42.33 pmC => 7100

7100 + 2611 = 9711 BC

Oldest permanent, Bromme, Ahrensberg = 2653 to 2611 BC, 42 years. (Not 2300!)

I'm noting, between Ahrensberg and Maglemosian, there seems to be a gap of 2200 years ... which surround the 1500 years of carbon dates that I attribute to the 40 years of Babel (Göbekli Tepe). Were people being drafted from Scandinavia, and coming back when they no longer spoke Hebrew like everyone else, and there was no work to be extracted from them other than between them?

Maglemosian culture c. 7500–6000

2505 av. J.-Chr.

54,394 pcm, donc daté à 7555 av. J.-Chr.

2488 av. J.-Chr.

55,268 pcm, donc daté à 7388 av. J.-Chr.

(2505 + 2505 + 2488) / 3 = 2499 BC

(54.394 + 54.394 + 55.268) / 3 = 54.685 pmC => 5000

5000 + 2499 = 7499 BC

2318 av. J.-Chr.

63,914 pcm, donc daté à 6018 av. J.-Chr.

Maglemosian, 2499 to 2318 BC. The latter year is also when Kongemose starts.

Kongemose culture c. 6000–5200 BC

2216 av. J.-Chr.

69,017 pcm, donc daté à 5266 av. J.-Chr.

2199 av. J.-Chr.

69,861 pcm, donc daté à 5149 av. J.-Chr.

(2216 + 2199) / 2 = 2208 BC

(69.017 + 69.861) / 2 = 69.439 pmC => 3000

3000 + 2208 = 5208 BC.

So, Kongemose from 2318 to 2208. It overlaps with the following, that therefore starts a bit earlier.

Ertebølle culture c. 5300–3950 BC

2233 av. J.-Chr.

68,17 pcm, donc daté à 5383 av. J.-Chr.

2216 av. J.-Chr.

69,017 pcm, donc daté à 5266 av. J.-Chr.

(2233 + 2216 + 2216 + 2216 + 2216 + 2216) / 6 = 2219 BC

(68.17 + 69.017 + 69.017 + 69.017 + 69.017 + 69.017) / 6 = 68.876 pmC => 3100

3100 + 2219 = 5319 BC

(2233 + 2216 + 2216 + 2216 + 2216 + 2216 + 2216) / 7 = 2218 BC

(68.17 + 69.017 + 69.017 + 69.017 + 69.017 + 69.017 + 69.017) / 7 = 68.896 pmC => 3100 ... no

0.5^(3080/5730) => 68.895 pmC

2218 BC + 3080 = 5298 BC

So, this is the point at which I think that intercalations from my table and using the carbon 14 dating calculator which just have "3100 years" instead of 3080, becomes too clumsy. That's why I have asked a technician for help finding a more finetuned, yet "no special tools" method. As per previous, I wouldn't normally bother about 20 years, but when the overlap of two cultures is just 100 years, making it 120 instead becomes a bit significant. With the next one, I'm either lucky or lazy or both.

2022 av. J.-Chr.

79,035 pcm, donc daté à 3972 av. J.-Chr.

So, Ertebølle from 2218 to 2022 BC.

Funnelbeaker culture (4000–2700 BC)

2039 av. J.-Chr.

78,209 pcm, donc daté à 4089 av. J.-Chr.

2022 av. J.-Chr.

79,035 pcm, donc daté à 3972 av. J.-Chr.

(2039 + 2022) / 2 = 2031 BC

(78.209 + 79.035) / 2 = 78.622 pmC => 2000

2000 + 2031 = 4031 BC (as long before 4000 as 3972 is after it)

(2039 + 2022 + 2022 + 2022) / 4 = 2026 BC

(78.209 + 79.035 + 79.035 + 79.035) / 4 = 78.8285 => 1950

1950 + 2026 = 3976 (basically 3972)

(2039 + 2022 + 2022) / 3 = 2028 BC

(78.209 + 79.035 + 79.035) / 3 = 78.76 pmC => 1950

1950 + 2028 = 3978

0.5^(1970/5730) => 78.796 pmC ... ah

2027 BC

78.796 pmC => 1970

1970 + 2027 = 3997 BC

1700 av. J.-Chr.

87,575 pcm, donc daté à 2800 av. J.-Chr.

1678 av. J.-Chr.

89,4653 pcm, donc daté à 2598 av. J.-Chr.

(1700 + 1678) / 2 = 1689 BC

(87.575 + 89.4653) / 2 = 88.52015 pmC => 1000

1000 + 1689 = 2689 BC

Funnelbeaker, from 2027 to 1689 BC.

Pitted Ware culture (3200–2300 BC)

1845 av. J.-Chr.

84,5892 pcm, donc daté à 3245 av. J.-Chr.

1823 av. J.-Chr.

85,0509 pcm, donc daté à 3173 av. J.-Chr.

(1845 + 1823) / 2 = 1834 BC

(84.5892 + 85.0509) / 2 = 84.82 pmC => 1350

1350 + 1834 = 3184 BC

1655 av. J.-Chr.

91,4498 pcm, donc daté à 2395 av. J.-Chr.

1633 av. J.-Chr.

93,3283 pcm, donc daté à 2203 av. J.-Chr.

(1654 + 1633) / 2 = 1644

(91.4498 + 93.3283) / 2 = 92.389 pmC => 650

650 + 1644 = 2294 BC

Pitted Ware, from 1834 to 1644 BC.

So, pre-Babel, 42 years.

Post-Babel divides into Maglemosian, roughly 200 years, Kongemose, a bit over 100 years, Ertebølle, roughly 200 years, Funnelbeaker, a bit more than 300 years, Pitted Ware, a bit less than 200 years.

I will be reminding Kristian Kristiansen, to check whether for instance the 42 years pre-Babel would involve cramming 3 generations into 15 years or sth ...

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Bertin, Abbot
5.IX.2024

In pago Tarvanensi, monasterio Sithinensi, in Gallia, sancti Bertini Abbatis.