mardi 12 juin 2018

Does Humani Generis say we must subject to a future judgement of the Church as if there was none already pertaining to the matter?

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : On Catholics Believing Evolution · Creation vs. Evolution : Does Humani Generis say we must subject to a future judgement of the Church as if there was none already pertaining to the matter? · What did the Allocution Say?

36. For these reasons the Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter - for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God. However, this must be done in such a way that the reasons for both opinions, that is, those favorable and those unfavorable to evolution, be weighed and judged with the necessary seriousness, moderation and measure, and provided that all are prepared to submit to the judgment of the Church, to whom Christ has given the mission of interpreting authentically the Sacred Scriptures and of defending the dogmas of faith.[11] Some however, rashly transgress this liberty of discussion, when they act as if the origin of the human body from pre-existing and living matter were already completely certain and proved by the facts which have been discovered up to now and by reasoning on those facts, and as if there were nothing in the sources of divine revelation which demands the greatest moderation and caution in this question.

I did not see "future" as epithet of "judgement".*

There is a perfectly pertinent past judgement on the matter : the Trent definition that Biblical exegesis must follow consensus of Church Fathers./HGL

* While the screenshot from Humani Generis is photoshopped, it is limited to taking lines further apart and adding black lines as underlining the relevant words./HGL (Plus added handwritten text at bottom/HGL) - Oh, click to enlarge!/HGL

PS, footnote 11 says Cfr. Allocut Pont. to the members of the Academy of Science, November 30, 1941: A.A.S., vol. XXXIII, p. 506. Perhaps that allocution (also by Pius XII) did mention sth about future judgement. I have not checked. Nevertheless, the text category encyclical is higher than allocution, and the words in the encyclical just state "judgement" not specifically a future one. Certainly there is a past one, an even higher since infallible text category, a definition by Trent.

Now, for those not familiar with the words "encyclical" means a letter to (en in Greek) the circle (cyclos in Greek) of the world, by the Pope (to all bishops, but thence of course to all of their flocks. Allocution means speech to people who are where the Pope physically is, not an after dinner speech wishing Merry Christmas to his close friends, but an official speech - but it is still less than an encyclical.

And Bible interpreted by Church Fathers means Genesis 1 to 11 is factual history./HGL

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