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lundi 15 juin 2020
French Catholics Usually NOT Young Earth Creationist - Why?
French Catholics Usually NOT Young Earth Creationist - Why? · Are Normal French People Allowed to Look? · To French Fans of San Antonio · Are Some Catholics Being Taught That Young Earth Creationism Involves the Heresy "Sola Scriptura" [?] · Dear Dr. Sarfati, what does Scripture and Tradition Actually Mean?
Catholics in France come, mainly, in two brands : progressives and trads.
For progressives, it is simple : back when Young Earth or Old Earth or "any strict" creationism was accidentally tied to species fixism some - in fact old earthers, usually, but check about Calhoun - came to argue black gentlemen and ladies did not descend from Adam and Eve. This angered - understandably enough - French Catholics and many embraced Transformationism as Evolutionism was then known as, consuming it with beak, claws and feathers. Teilhard de Chardin became the hero of this current.
Theologically speaking, there was a Sulpician Father, Fulcran Vigoroux, who advocated a moderate Old Earth position. To him, the six days were - alas - long periods, but the long periods ended when Adam and Eve were created, and from then on human history is at least basically as in Genesis. He advocated a limited flood - but limited only to all the parts with actual people on them. He was obviously inspired by species fixism in denying room on the Ark for all the species all over earth. If each Linnean species were separately fixed and therefore needed a separate survival from the pre-Flood world, one would have to agree. As it is now, Young Earth Creationism stands with limited transformationism : not from single celled creatures to elephants and bananas or from monkeys over apes to men, but from Adam and Eve to Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal and Denisovan, from Noah's family on the Ark to the present races, from a hedgehog couple on the ark to at least 16 hedgehog species, perhaps also 9 gymnures or moonrat species. Anyway, keep in mind, with some stretchability in principle on his part for genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11, and with a preference for LXX version with no stretch, he stood with the Bible as to from Creation of Adam and Eve.
But ... there was a conflict in France, more than once, actually, 1905 when French police killed Catholics who tried to defend their churches, many bishops standing with Action française from then on, then Pius XI banned it - not meaning it was dissolved, but meaning it was in theory impossible for a Catholic to be part of it, then World War II, then Algerian war ... many of the stricter Catholics had a tendency to stand with the more Fascist sides of politics. Not necessarily meaning they betrayed Jews to the occupant or things like that, but they were accused ... strict Catholics in France have had a rough time last century and have been hit on the head more than once.
If the Church, except Teilhard style progressives, including the conservative bishops who were replaced over being too close to Action française, would not have accepted men like Vacher de Lapouge promoting racism or eugenics (he promoted both), or tracing a race of human population to the glaciation of Güntz (back then dated to 180 000 BP, now it's more like 1 200 000 to 700 000 BP to uniformitarians), they were not all the guys conservative Catholic laymen had around them.
Hence, the weekly Rivarol in last number had an article on among other things the gay maffia, featuring, obviously, under the pen of Michel Fromentoux, a reference to Sodom and Gomorrah as a historical event, whereon I sent the editor, a Bourbon with first name Jérôme, a mail pointing out that Genesis 14 carbon dates to 3500 BC, and if it is correct, which it is, its real date would be around 1935 BC, so how about ditching inflated dates? You see, a previous number from May 27 had featured Vacher de Malpouge, Indo-European spirituality, Indo-European ultimate ancestors becoming what they became (white, tall, heroic, gloomy ...!) under the influence of the named glaciation of Güntz ...
French Conservative Catholics have had to keep for a while some curious company, and there are minds that read like cross breeds between the two allies against the left from earlier parts of last century.
Meanwhile, as I have not yet recevied any mail from Jérôme Bourbon, I am still waiting to see if I have a response from the more progressive, probably, curate of St. Anne, or his chaplain, one of them had preached on the Humility of the Blessed Virgin on the First Saturday, and I pointed out to him, the privileges of Mary have a great deal to do with Genesis 3, so much that if you deny historicity of Genesis 3 or even its historic reliability, by putting Adam and Eve 100 000 or more years back, you deny the privileges of the Blessed Virgin : the Church defined them in trust of the Bible and of Tradition, and if you make these untrustworthy, you do the same to dogmas built on them.
Obviously, if one of the priests is from Africa, I hope he has still less taste for the solution of Calhoun, if I recall correctly how it was characterised by Émile Mangenot, SJ, in 1920 ... or if it was the other dictionary with Catholic theology.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Abraham of Auvergne
15.VI.2020
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