Muslims and my Creationism

On the face of it, they are fairly encouraging.

I have misgivings, though. I'll first give two feedbacks, one of them encouraging, to a point, the latter less so, though both were meant to be encouraging.

"Darwin," (I translate) "was to manipulate and help control the masses."

His heirs are certainly being used that way and are certainly willing to be so used, but when it comes to exercising bad control, I think his relative Galton and his admirer Marx were far worse than he, at least in their intentions.

But there is a problem if one considers an ideology first and foremost about how much control it exercises and not about what its arguments are.

"I hope Darwin is in Hell, he's certainly having it very hot."

I agree he is very probably damned, reports of a death bed conversion are at least controverted, but for my part, I pity him if so and fear he is in Hell. My grandparents were believing Darwinists, and whatever high risk they are in Hell (I saw neither one's last moments and both were raised in Christian homes), it cannot be what I hope for.

Now, after the feedbacks, another point.

As far as I recall, one hadith or sth claims that Mohammed was 39th generation from Adam. I cannot find it, it could have been toned down, I'll ask David Wood about it.

Adam to Noah = 10, Sem to Abraham = 10, Ishmael = 1 more, 39 - 21 = 18.

Mohammed was born AD 570 and died at 62, a non-violent death, so reflecting on his health dispositions rather than fortune.

5199 + 570 = 5769 Anno Mundi.

2242 + 942 + 86 = 3270 Anno Mundi when Ishmael was born.

5769 - 3270 = 2499 from birth of Ishmael to birth of his descendant Mohammed.

2499 / 18 = 139 years of each father, not when he died, except coincidence, but when the relevant child was born. If Mohammed died at 62, I don't think his father even lived that long. 120 was a normal age in the day of Moses, way further back, but not in AD times, though it has been, rarely, achieved.

However, if they consider that the Blessed Virgin (and they are right to admit Her virginity) was the sister of Musa and Harun, of Moses and Aaron, they have a solution for that : just take away 1500 years or so, telescoping the Biblical history.

1999 / 18 = well, actually, 111 years when relevant son was born still looks too high.

While I cannot get a confirmation on 39 generations, look here:

Various genealogies of Adnan up to Isma'il have been narrated. Adnan was the ancestor of the Adnani Arabs of northern, central and western Arabia and a direct descendant of Isma'il. It is not confirmed how many generations are between them; however, Adnan was fairly close to Isma'il. Isma'il had twelve sons who are said to have become twelve tribal chiefs throughout the regions from Havilah to Shur (from Assyria to the border of Egypt).

hhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_Muhammad#Adnan_to_Isma'il

Plus, it gives a concundrum for Chronology Musa, Daud, Suleiman, Isa ...

If Jesus is supposed to be nephew of Moses, how come Moses founded the Jews and by the time his nephew was an adult, they were already apostate (not most, but all, unlike the Christian view that some were still faithful, when Christ was born)? How does this fit in with David and Solomon being kings of Israel in between?

Probably most Muslims here being adapted will say "it's symbolic anyway" and the rest would not consider my blog as a corrective to their religion ... that may be one reason why I am little read in France.

It is not surprising to me, that Mohammed's followers consider history delicate and apt to huge distortions ... a bit like Henry Ford's history is bunk. A bit like Evangelicals about Church history. The Catholic Bible is 73 books (second smallest Christian canon, the Protestant 66 books being smallest, the 81 books of Tawhedo Church of Ethiopia being probably largest), and if historical books are not most books, they are at least the longest, with most chapters:

Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Bible Chapters, Facts
https://filolohika.blogspot.com/2019/03/bible-chapters-facts.html

By contrast, the Coran is one book, 114 Surahs, and the form seems uniformly to be sermons, like exhortations, with some history allusions dropped in here and there.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Sts Peter and Paul
29.VI.2020

PS, under stress, I miscalculated 2499 - 1500 into 1999, it should be 999. And 999 / 18 = 55 and a half years. Certainly possible. The problem is, this means taking away the 1510 years from Exodus to Christmas in Roman Martyrology, and gives the exact problems I have outlined, how did the Jews, all of them, apostatise so fast, how do Daûd and Suleiman fit in between an uncle and his nephew? Insoluble.

I should have added, St. Luke's Gospel chapter 3 gives 72 ancestors back to Adam, and this has no such problem. Up to Noah and even Abraham, lifespans are extremely long, but from Abraham, the remaining 51, or other line of descent from David to Christ, 42 - 1 + 3 + 1 = 45; St. Matthew, no such problem. Abraham born in 2015 BC, means 2015 / 51 = 39 and a half or 2015 / 45 = 44 and three quarters, which is clearly possible./HGL