dimanche 1 juin 2025

Did the Jomon People Arrive to Japan in Pre-Flood Times?


I pose the question in a provocative way.

Some are now taking the peopling of Japan as starting in 40 000 BP, which, if true, would be somewhat annoying for me, since I pose the Flood in 37 000 BC. Carbon date wise, of course, in fact only as far back as 2957 BC.

If this were true, it would be some kind of stretching of the matches, it would force me to ask if sometimes, even apart from the reservoir effect, something post 2957 BC could date to carbon years previous to 39 000 BP.

However, the idea of Jomon people arriving in Japan c. 40 000 years ago comes from the Tategahana Paleolithic site in Nojiri-ko.

Here is the article I first found about it:

Geology and Quaternary environments of the Tategahana Paleolithic site in Nojiri-ko (Lake Nojiri), Nagano, central Japan
Y. Kondo et al. | Dec. 2017
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618217300307


https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2017.12.012


What do I find?

Fossils of animals. An assemblage which is suggestive of human interference. Carbon dates from 37.9–60.4 ka. And, manmade tools.

What do I not find?

People of similar anatomy or genes or both to the actual human skeleta from the Jomon period proper. Or any people at all, for that matter. Dogus, a cultural artefact typical of Jomon culture. And this after nine excavations, by 1984.

What height is it?

The water level of Nojiri-ko is at an altitude of 657 m above sea level, with the deepest point at 38.5 m, and it covers an area of 4.5 km2


So, not too high to be a pre-Flood item or water added to a pre-Flood item.

How do I analyse this?

Men of unknown ethnicity (Homo sapiens, Neanderthals, Denisovans, Homo erectus) meddled with this ground and its fauna in pre-Flood times. The Flood did not destroy it, but surrounded it by volcanos. Arguably no one came just after the Flood, only at the actual start of the accepted Jomon period.

Carbon dated 14,000 BC is when?

2686 BC
24.08 pmC, dated as 14,456 BC
2673 BC
27.32 pmC, dated as 13,399 BC


So, some time between 2686 and 2673 BC. After Heber was born. Before Noah died and Babel began.

(2686 + 2673) / 2 = 2679.5 BC
(24.08 + 27.32) / 2 = 25.7 pmC

5730 * log(0.257) / log(0.5) + 2679.5 = 13 911 BC


If 2679 "and a half" brings us near 100 years after the date we seek, the real date would be sth like 2680 BC. Clearly post-Flood.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Monday of Pentecost Novena
2.VI.2025

PS, there were actually by now 20 excavations:

In the 20th excavation, conducted in 2014, which involved about 200 people, more than 750 pieces of fossils and archaeological remains were discovered and sediment samples for microfossil study were collected.


Still no human remains. Still no Dogus./HGL

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