jeudi 26 juin 2025

I'm Not Into EVERY Proposal of Shortening the Timeline


If certain dynasties were only accessible by written record, no archaeology involved, no sequential annals involved, just narratives about each ruler as such, it might make sense to look for doubles, meaning rulers that under different names appear in more than one list.

In some cases for Egypt, I'd recommend this approach, for instance the II dynasty (last time I checked) seems to have had no archaeological record.

I check on wikipedia, not quite true.* Hotepsekhemwy, Nebra and Nynetjer seem to have identified tombs, albeit tentatively. It's timespan being 2890 to 2686 BC (which if true would put it in the span between Flood and Babel) would, if based on carbon dating, reduce to, for the beginning:

1739 BC
86.754 pmC, dated as 2914 BC

1720 BC
87.148 pmC, dated as 2857 BC


And this would put them close to Joseph's pharao, since the dates given are for close to death of Isaac and to Jacobs immigration into Egypt. I must admit, for the date of Joseph's pharao, I take Djoser and I take the uncalibrated carbon date, c. 2800 BC. The calibrated one is 2600 BC.

For the end, I would land at between 1700 and 1678 BC.

1700 BC
87.541 pmC, dated as 2800 BC

1678 BC
89.449 pmC, dated as 2600 BC


In order to fix this, I'd need to verify the calibrations on Stuiver and Bekker.

Let's first add 1950 to the BC years, and divide by 1.03 and then add the calibrated BP and calibrated BC after that.

1739 BC
86.754 pmC, dated as 4722 BP : 5470 cal BP cal 3520 BC / cal 5370 BP cal 3420 BC

1720 BC
87.148 pmC, dated as 4667 BP : cal 5410 BP 3460 BC / 5310 cal BP cal 3360 BC

1700 BC
87.541 pmC, dated as 4612 BP : cal 5300 BP, cal 3360 BC

1678 BC
89.449 pmC, dated as 4417 BP : cal 5030 BP, cal 3080 BC


I must admit I did not try to systematically work in the calibrations made by uniformitarians into the question. This makes applying my tables a bit more difficult than it should be on some areas. These results are not quite acceptable.

Now, one who really loves this approach (namely of parallelising or even identifying rulers who in the narrative are serialised) would be Damien Mackey. He is willing to identify Sargon II and his son Sennacherib, despite the fact that Assyrian chronicles for the first millennium BC are a year by year affair. He would also identify this composite with Shamshi-Adad I.**

His capital was originally at Ekallatum and later moved to Šubat-Enlil.


Now, what do I find out about Šubat-Enlil?***

The site has been occupied since the 5th millennium BC. During the late third millennium, the site was known as Shekhna. During that time it was under control of the Akkadian Empire and was used as an administrative center.[1][2] Around 1800 BC, the site was renamed "Šubat-Enlil" by the king Shamshi-Adad I, and it became his residential capital.


Here we also deal with reduceable carbon dates.

2189 BC
70.415 pmC, dated as 5089 BC
2166 BC
71.553 pmC, dated as 4933 BC

1574 BC
97.392 pmC, dated as 1793 BC (1800 BC)

1543 BC
98.108 pmC, dated as 1700 BC


So, if one can see "Shekhna" renamed as "Šubat-Enlil" at carbon dated 1800 BC, that's 1574 BC. Meanwhile Sargon II would with adequate accuracy be dated to having ruled between 722 and 705 BC, and Sennacherib 705 to 681 BC. Contemporaries with Romulus and Numa Pompilius (the former accessed before Sargon II, the latter died after Sennacherib). So Sargon II and Sennacherib can't be the guy renaming Shekhna to Šubat-Enlil, can't be Shamshi-Adad I. Sorry Damien.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Sacred Heart of Jesus
26—27.VI.2025

PS, Shekhna was in place as a city, 635 rather than 3300 years./HGL

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Dynasty_of_Egypt

** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamshi-Adad_I

*** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_Leilan

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