mercredi 8 mars 2017

Flood to Abraham, St Jerome B


On the less likely "St Jerome B version", Tower of Babel dispersion event is as far from Flood as in Georgius Syncellus, and therefore closer to Abraham instead. It would have been in 2424 BC.

To explain, St Jerome's Christmas chronology quoted from Roman Martyrology in itself does not state anything about Tower of Babel. So, to me, where St Jerome's chronology placed that event is somewhat mysterious.

Extra years if end of Göbekli Tepe is the dispersion of tongues at Tower of Babel, 6176 of them, makes for a carbon level 47.374 pmc. Levels for 2957 (Flood) and 1928 (Abraham in En-Gedi) as previous.

2957 BC
1.636 pmc, + 34000 years, 36957 BC
2921 BC
11.75 pmc, + 17700 years, 20621 BC
2886 BC
19.592 pmc, + 13500 years, 16386 BC
2850 BC
25.842 pmc, + 11200 years, 14050 BC
2815 BC
30.689 pmc, + 9750 years, 12565 BC
2779 BC
34.552 pmc, + 8800 years, 11579 BC
2744 BC
37.548 pmc, + 8100 years, 10844 BC
2708 BC
39.935 pmc, + 7600 years, 10308 BC
2673 BC
41.786 pmc, + 7200 years, 9873 BC
2637 BC
43.262 pmc, + 6950 years, 9587 BC
2602 BC
44.407 pmc, + 6700 years, 9302 BC
2566 BC
45.318 pmc, + 6550 years, 9116 BC
2531 BC
46.023 pmc, + 6400 years, 8931 BC
2495 BC
46.589 pmc, + 6300 years, 8795 BC
2460 BC
47.029 pmc, + 6250 years, 8710 BC
2424 BC
47.374 pmc, + 6200 years, 8624 BC


Here the formula for pmc was a series of phi related values multiplied by the specific : ( 47.374 - 1.636 ) / 22.245
=2.05610249494268374915711395819285232636547538773,
add back 1.636.

Note that the table shows the years for Göbekli Tepe as being 2637 to 2424 BC, corresponding to 9587 to 9624 BC. 213 years of building activity, like Israel in Egypt.

Now the formula will be same series with the other specific here: ( 83.689 - 47.374 ) / 22.245
=1.63250168577208361429534726904922454484153742414026,
add back 47.374.

2424 BC
47.374 pmc, + 6200 years, 8624 BC
2391 BC
55.404 pmc, + 4900 years, 7291 BC
2358 BC
61.631 pmc, + 4000 years, 6358 BC
2325 BC
66.593 pmc, + 3350 years, 5675 BC
2292 BC
70.441 pmc, + 2900 years, 5192 BC
2259 BC
73.509 pmc, + 2550 years, 4809 BC
2226 BC
75.887 pmc, + 2300 years, 4526 BC
2193 BC
77.783 pmc, + 2100 years, 4293 BC
2159 BC
79.252 pmc, + 1900 years, 4059 BC
2126 BC
80.424 pmc, + 1800 years, 3926 BC
2093 BC
81.333 pmc, + 1700 years, 3793 BC
2060 BC
82.056 pmc, + 1650 years, 3710 BC
2027 BC
82.616 pmc, + 1600 years, 3627 BC
1994 BC
83.065 pmc, + 1550 years, 3544 BC
1961 BC
83.415 pmc, + 1500 years, 3461 BC
1928 BC
83.689 pmc, + 1450 years, 3378 BC


If you feel this one is more likely than the other one, feel free to use it instead.

If you feel Ziggurat of Ur is a better match than Göbekli Tepe for Tower of Babel project, feel free to use that one for 2424 BC. There is a problem with that.

Ziggurat of Ur is supposed to have been built by Ur-Nammu, and perhaps there is even some evidence to back that up. And Ur-Nammu is a bit too late:

Ur-Nammu (conventional) 2112–c. 2095 (short chronology) 2047–2030 BC.

Sumerian had already been spoken and written for some while and if these dates were to date like 2424 BC, well, the pmc of atmosphere would have been around 99% already - way too high for so early, if one is to date Abraham in En Gedi as ... Chalcolithic of En Gedi.

So, to me, Ziggurat of Ur is out of the question as "Tower of Babel" project. Note also that Ur was not abandoned after the Ziggurat. This means buildings would have been added to Ur after the Ziggurat. And this means if the Ziggurat had been the tower of Babel, the text would be wrong, where it says "and they ceased to build the city" (Genesis 11:8b).

Obviously, it is not.

Ur is not the city which they were building.

But other end of Shinar, Göbekli Tepe could be the abandoned city, with 18 km (12 miles?) to Urfa, a k a Edessa. A city then begun after Göbekli Tepe was abandoned (see Genesis 11:8) and which could be Ur Kasdim.

I look at the years here, I think 2424 is late for Göbekli Tepe. With 2424 you have GT starting 213 years earlier, according to the curve. I think St Jerome A is a better alternative, or Georgius Syncellus. I have not yet looked at St Jerome C.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Ember Wednesday
of Lent
8.III.2017

PS, nearly forgot to credit my good calculating helps, the online calcuilator here:
http://web2.0calc.com/
and the carbon 14 calculator here:
https://www.math.upenn.edu/~deturck/m170/c14/carbdate.html
with short link: http://ppt.li/3m8

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